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Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by kebman on Saturday January 08, 2022 @03:38PM (#29855939)
Do you have a measure against the banking system? If you do, then I'd love to see how Bitcoin is worse.
Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by tsimionescu on Saturday January 08, 2022 @04:25PM (#29856450)
Let's take an article [0] produced by a big Bitcoin miner at face value. They claim the banking system consumes 263.72 TWh globally, twice the power consumption of the Bitcoin network at that time, 113.89 TWh.

Now, Bitcoin is processing 4.6 transactions/second [1]. VISA alone is processing 1700 transactions/second on average, with peak transaction rates claimed in the 24000/second [2]. Mastercard is similar, as are other payment processors.

Even worse, the claimed energy usage is for the entire banking system. This easily amounts to billions of daily transactions, but also many other services that Bitcoin doesn't even come close to offering: insurance, mortgages, credits, risk evaluations, escrow and many others. All this for a mere 2x the total energy expenditure.

[0] https://cointelegraph.com/news/banking-system-consumes-two-t...

[1] https://towardsdatascience.com/the-blockchain-scalability-pr...

[2] https://news.bitcoin.com/no-visa-doesnt-handle-24000-tps-and...

Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by neb_b on Saturday January 08, 2022 @04:38PM (#29856582)
Your transactions/second number ignores the lightning network
Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by tsimionescu on Saturday January 08, 2022 @04:40PM (#29856595)
We were discussing Bitcoin. The Lightning network is a completely different thing, with completely different guarantees of payment security/trust than Bitcoin (it's possible to steal money on the Lightning network, or to do denial of service attacks against nodes, by design).
Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by kentonv on Saturday January 08, 2022 @04:01PM (#29856200)
According to this: https://www.blockchain.com/charts/cost-per-transaction

Bitcoin costs $150-$300 per transaction. Unless I'm misunderstanding something?

Needless to say, nothing in the regular banking system comes anywhere near those kinds of costs.

Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by iso1210 on Sunday January 09, 2022 @07:24AM (#29862645)
Money laundering millions costs more than that. Hiding illgotten gains in swiss bank accounts costs more.
Re:Is Bitcoin Down or Just Me? by beaconstudios on Saturday January 08, 2022 @03:44PM (#29855999)
Bitcoin hasn't replaced the banking system though, nor could it (or should it). A crypto backed finance industry would be a libertarian hellscape of consumer abuse.