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Re:Pentagon and CIA shaped thousands of Hollywood movies int... by Fnoord on Friday January 07, 2022 @08:46AM (#29839016)
Urban Dictionary is a wisdom of the crowd. The most upvoted entry is sometimes a troll or funny (if the latter: let's say we disagree on taste of humor). As another poster said, need to be cautious, and read multiple entries. Or simply don't use it unless you don't have another source (this word is in the dictionary [1]).

Calling someone woke is discrediting the other person. Its like a signal to other people (especially the people who also often use this word), 'this person is politically aligned with X, this person cannot be right'. Its an insult, but so is the term 'wappie' (used in The Netherlands for people 'who don't believe in corona'). Faggot (when not in UK referring to gay person), nazi (when the person clearly isn't). These are all examples of insulting terms. They're polarizing. Even calling someone a communist when they clearly aren't is insulting, because communism is historically related to dictatorial regimes as well as purges (Stalinism comes to mind).

If they call themselves a communist (or a liberal, or a conservative, a nazi, woke, or whatever), fair game. But calling someone else that way when they did not identify with such is uncalled for. Because you put them on a political spectrum, with all kind of strings and assumptions attached to it.

Now, interestingly, calling someone a nazi or a faggot gets you downvoted or banned on most forums, but with a term like woke people still get away with. Not sure why.

According to Google Translate, pretentious translates to pretensioonikas in Estonian as the most popular translation, so it seems like it got borrowed from English (not implying it originates from English, I don't know about the etymology).

[1] $ dict pretentious

3 definitions found

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Pretentious \Pre*ten"tious\, a. [Cf. F. pr['e]tentieux. See
     {Pretend}.]
     Full of pretension; disposed to lay claim to more than is
     one's; presuming; assuming. -- {Pre*ten"tious*ly}, adv. --
     {Pre*ten"tious*ness}, n.
     [1913 Webster]
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

  pretentious
      adj 1: making claim to or creating an appearance of (often
             undeserved) importance or distinction; "a pretentious
             country house"; "a pretentious fraud"; "a pretentious
             scholarly edition" [ant: {unpretentious}]
      2: intended to attract notice and impress others; "an
         ostentatious sable coat" [syn: {ostentatious}, {pretentious}]
         [ant: {unostentatious}, {unpretending}, {unpretentious}]
      3: (of a display) tawdry or vulgar [syn: {ostentatious},
         {pretentious}]
From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thesaurus]:

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Re:Pentagon and CIA shaped thousands of Hollywood movies int... by tauntz on Friday January 07, 2022 @10:32AM (#29840271)

  pretentious translates to pretensioonikas in Estonian as the most popular translation
That's also true in other dictionaries but the definitions of these words are not similar at all.

"pretensioonikas" means basically "one who has high demands / expectations" in Estonian :(

Re:Pentagon and CIA shaped thousands of Hollywood movies int... by Fnoord on Friday January 07, 2022 @01:37PM (#29842901)
It mentioned a couple of alternatives in Estonian but my Estonian is worse than your Dutch so I can't cook spaghetti from it myself.