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Re:Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer by seoaeu on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:24PM (#29827593)
Maybe I’m missing something, but what’s so wrong with selling a bike rack with every new car? Seems a bit silly, but I’d expect it would encourage cycling while slightly raising the price of cars which are already under priced relative to the externalities they cause.
Re:Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer by restingrobot on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:45PM (#29827946)
It's more like selling a bike rack with a new car, that you have to pay $15 to the car company every time you use. The biggest issue I see is that Norton is charging their users a fee to use their own hardware to mine crypto.
Re:Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer by mikeiz404 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:46PM (#29827954)
The ethereum crypto minor for many would be a reoccurring net loss (or a negative externality on the person paying for electricity).

> “Norton is pretty much amplifying energy consumption worldwide, costing their customers more in electricity use than the customer makes on the mining, yet allowing Norton to make a ton of profit,” tweeted security researcher Chris Vickery.

Which is unlike a bike rack which if enabled/purchased but never used would be a one time loss. And for some one likely to transport bikes the bike rack would probably be beneficial.

Edit: After doing some calculations for profitability with say the RTX 3070 with a hash rate of 60.5 MH/s and a power consumption of 160 W [0] at both the min and max average US state electricity prices of .1038 $/KWh and .3428 $/KWh respectively [1] is currently profitable with a return of $2.86/day and $1.94/day respectively [2] (ignoring all other costs).

So for some this would be profitable for them with a potential reduction in the lifetime of their hardware.

0: https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-m...!

1: https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph...

2: https://minerstat.com/coin/ETH