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Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by bluGill on Thursday January 06, 2022 @09:07AM (#29823665)
More relaxing is not a goal! Very few people can spend spend days in bed if not forced to. If you try your body will betray you by getting up and doing something.

You can do "more work for the man", or you can do a hobby of some sort. Either way though you are up and doing something.

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by avgcorrection on Thursday January 06, 2022 @09:32AM (#29823945)
> You can do "more work for the man", or you can do a hobby of some sort. Either way though you are up and doing something.

Way to miss the point completely. Clearly “relaxing” in this context meant “leisure” or “free time”.

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by bluGill on Thursday January 06, 2022 @11:50AM (#29825977)
No, you miss the point: what is the difference between a hobby and a job? You are doing something either way. I'm not the only person who likes my job. I'm not the only person with a hobby that sometimes gets frustrated with something in the hobby.
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by avgcorrection on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:10PM (#29826283)
The freedom/free time part is obviously the distinction!
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by bluGill on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:43PM (#29834571)
Sure, but why is that important enough to make in the first place?

Note if you don't have a background in philosophy you probably can't answer this. If you do the answer will take many pages

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by avgcorrection on Friday January 07, 2022 @04:13AM (#29836886)
Note if you can’t understand why the distinction matters in general, in practice, and to many people then you might be unhealthily privileged and should try to get some perspective.
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by danaris on Thursday January 06, 2022 @09:19AM (#29823791)
"Relaxing" is not synonymous with "lying in bed."

For some people, reading is relaxing.

For some, writing is relaxing.

For others, playing video games is relaxing.

For yet others, making video games is relaxing.

The point is being able to decide and structure your own time, rather than being beholden to someone else's demands just in order to have enough money to keep existing on this planet.

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by long_time_gone on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:27AM (#29824714)
In the economic sense, an individual's time is split between work and leisure. Leisure is defined as "time not spent working", so any reduction in working hours will increase your leisure hours. Leisure time can be spent doing anything someone desires (chores, exercise, watching tv, reading, hobbies, etc.), it has nothing to do with sleeping or lying in bed.

https://opentextbc.ca/principlesofeconomics/chapter/6-3-labo...

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by tehjoker on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:25AM (#29824684)
Doing things you enjoy is totally different from working for the man because you benefit and are in control.