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Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by PragmaticPulp on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @08:47PM (#29818058)
> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year.

> Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.

Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro?

I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it wouldn't even be a net cost increase because you could downsize your server.

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by metadat on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @08:52PM (#29818107)
Honest question: Why is everyone pushing CentralizedFlare pro so hard in this thread?
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by tick_tock_tick on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @08:58PM (#29818151)
Cause it solves real issues for dirt cheap....

I mean really cold cache from the above user is at 5000ms that's pretty horrible. When I tried I got 2800ms. Take a look around it seems to be mostly from fetching static content which is a classic problem CDNs solve.

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by ignoramous on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @09:26PM (#29818366)
> Cause it solves real issues for dirt cheap...

One doesn't even need pro. In our use, Cloudflare's pages.dev and workers.dev serves single-digit TB traffic with triple-digit million hits at $30/mo. We pay $0/mo for origin servers since there aren't any.

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by mayli on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @10:56PM (#29819178)
Unique Visitors 358.45k, Total Requests 22.13M, Total Data Served 3 TB from cloudflare + a scaleway stardust for 1$ per mo.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by miyuru on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:31AM (#29819852)
IPv6 only stardust I am guessing?
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by metadat on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @09:02PM (#29818189)
Got it, yeah, web-tier caching is annoying to do yourself. Cheers and thank you kind sir or madam!
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by bawolff on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @11:22PM (#29819358)
It doesn't have to be annoying, just easier.

People have been citing $30/month. Even if you value your time at min wage, its probably still cheaper than setting up your own varnish (and that's assuming you don't care about improving the last little bit of latency with geo located edge servers)

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by bawolff on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @11:18PM (#29819332)
Can we not call companies silly names. It seems childish.

To answer the actual question - its the obvious answer. They make a product that works well and is relatively cheap. Is it without drawbacks? obviously not, nothing is. However, for a significant segment of the market the value proposition makes sense.

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by tshaddox on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @09:19PM (#29818318)
Is there a decentralized solution you would recommend that’s better?
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by bawolff on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @11:24PM (#29819368)
I appreciate you are replying to someone, but i feel like this doesn't quite make sense. You're running a website. Why would your web server be decentralized? HTTP is a client/server protocol after all.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by brainwipe on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:24AM (#29821244)
Because caching is part of the HTTP spec. If content doesn't change on every request, you cache it with a timeout. If users are looking at your site from around the world, you want the cache to exist as close to them as possible. This is the job of the CDN. In Cloudflare's case, they sit between your web server and the user and can be that HTTP cache. If your site is popular, you might still have multiple versions of it across regions.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by Karrot_Kream on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:58AM (#29819997)
Because the linked article is about Cloudflare? It's like asking why a comment thread on an article talking about apples is discussing apples. Or are you asking why so many people are _pro_ Cloudflare?
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by oefrha on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @09:03PM (#29818204)
It happens to be a big bullet point in TFA, so it appears in discussions of TFA, duh.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by porker on Thursday January 06, 2022 @02:20AM (#29820423)
Because many competitors have taken an "Enterprise focused" approach. The choice of CDNs for more than media hosting and without $$$ commitment is quite small.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by jeppesen-io on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @10:38PM (#29819036)
What would you propose as an alternative?
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by throwaway49374 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:34AM (#29820178)
AWS CloudFront
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by duskwuff on Thursday January 06, 2022 @03:15AM (#29820762)
Cloudfront's bandwidth pricing is outrageously high at $0.08/GB (up to $0.12/GB for some regions). Meanwhile, Cloudflare doesn't even charge for bandwidth.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by kortilla on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @10:42PM (#29819061)
> That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken.

So what? Unless your website is offering some superficial junk that can easily be found elsewhere, you’re not going to lose a user.

For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by jeppesen-io on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @11:09PM (#29819254)
Almost a perfect quote of GM in the 80s when Japanese cars took over it's market share

> For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.

if there is't one now, there will be. Besides, with a little CDN and tweaking you improve your users enjoyment. Why not?

Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by cblconfederate on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:09PM (#29827296)
Show me one major media site that takes < 10 seconds to load
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by austhrow743 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:27AM (#29821276)
There's plenty of other image editing software.
Re:We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400 by jeppesen-io on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @10:37PM (#29819030)
Yeah, I opened web dev tools in firefox and looked at the request times. Seems strange not to use a CDN to improve the load time with a CDN, particularly with users in a different continent