Amazon has to be at the point of literally running out of nearby human beings to be concerned about retention.

https://www.essence.com/news/amazon-burning-through-workers/

This article is about warehouse workers, not developers.

It may be, but you may rest assured that when a recruiter asks me whether I'd like to work for Amazon, how they treat warehouse employees is going to be a factor in my answer. I've never been confident of the viability of "it's fine, they only hate other people" as a social strategy.

Not like Amazon exactly has a good reputation for treating tech workers well either.

Workers are workers to management. Regardless of whether you pick up keyboards or press them.

> Amazon has to be at the point of literally running out of nearby human beings to be concerned about retention.

It seems like they're more than willing to hire imports. I get more recruiter spam from them than anyone else, and I don't live anywhere near any of their major offices.

This is true as well. I got an email offering me immigration support to move to Vancouver. I already live in Canada, have my entire life, and every job has also been in Canada.

You are assuming recruiters can read

They have lots of remote jobs now as well.

I read a stat that 1 out of ~154 Americans currently works for amazon.

American workers, not Americans overall - it's still astonishing, but they have a bit less than a million US employees rather than 330M/154 = 2.1M employees.

They do consider retention, make no mistake.

I’m sure they do. They just also don’t care until it becomes a critical issue.

I am contacted by an Amazon recruiter at least once a week. I’m sure every engineer I know is. I wonder how much of their money they blow on recruiting and how much engineering time is spent in interviews replacing all the burned out engineers. Plus all the talent that won’t even entertain a job at Amazon.

Lately I've seen less recruiter pitches from Amazon and more personalized messages from managers there about specific roles on their teams, which is a new wrinkle. I doubt that those people would add hours of recruiting to their weekly workload unless the standard candidate pipeline was really running dry.

I got a message on LinkedIn from a software developer manager there less than a month ago. Was quite shocked and didn't think such a thing was even possible.

Also got a staff software engineer from Facebook who added me on there, and had in their title "hiring". lol.

Not caring until something becomes a critical issue is very deeply ingrained in Amazon's culture.

> They do consider retention, make no mistake.

As in they consider retention unimportant, and something to not prioritize?

Because it sure seems that way.

Could you expand on this, please?

I believe the commenter was implying that their policy takes retention into account, and amazon simply doesn't value retaining employees

> I believe the commenter was implying that their policy takes retention into account, and amazon simply doesn't value retaining employees

I think there's some Bezos quote about people being lazy and it being easier to extract labor from fresh hires trying to prove themselves.

> Bezos believed that workers' desire to perform well decreased over time and that an entrenched workforce was a "march to mediocrity," Niekerk told The Times.

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-polices-based-jeff-be...

That's a solid degree of irony from someone that worked in the same place for 27 years :-D

Yes, they are well-known for having attrition targets.