Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by endisneigh on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @02:28PM (#29798953)

Why don't you give any examples of these queries? There's no point in comparing to say, 2008 Google, there are many of orders of magnitudes more sites. You can't expect old algorithms to keep up. The main thing that matters is how long it takes to find what you're looking for.

Can't say I really get your point. You're willing to complain and go on this long tirade, but not to give a single query example? The one you gave in your original post was already debunked easily enough. You're saying these things as if they are a fact - I disagree with you, it is in dispute. If we're going to just take random claims are facts, then I'll say Google's results are better than ever.

Google's market share isn't really relevant. It's very easy to just use Bing or any other search engine. I actually use Bing half of the time since it offers rewards.

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Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by tyingq on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @02:35PM (#29799066)

I didn't give any query to be debunked. I gave an example of a query to see the copycat sites. It does that just fine. Re-read it with some benefit of the doubt maybe? Your rant seems to be based on the idea that my upthread post was something that it wasn't. I did note that one copycat site was ranking above SO, but that was secondary.

As for a query with a shit ton of ads and widgets? Try vegas hotels, or anything else with lots of widgets and ads. The travel space has a lot of them.

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Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by endisneigh on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @02:41PM (#29799164)

All I’m saying is that claims should have proof

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Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by dang on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @03:55PM (#29800355)

Would you please make your substantive points without degenerating into the flamewar style? You did it repeatedly in this thread, and worse each time. That's the opposite of the direction we want things to go here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by tyingq on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @02:44PM (#29799219)

Proof of what? That google didn't used to have ads above organic results? That they added more and more over time? That some queries (vegas hotels) have no organic results above the fold? Those are all common knowledge. Burden of proof of the opposite would be on you.

I don't happen to have a historical screenshot history of SERP results specific to StackOverflow copycats, no. I'll concede that.

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Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by endisneigh on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @02:47PM (#29799263)

> Burden of proof of the opposite would be on you.

What, lol. I'm not making any claims. You're the one saying Google is becoming complacent. I'm asking for proof of this, lol.

>> I believe they've become more complacent since there is no competitive pressure, yes.

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Re:Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Googl... by dang on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @03:55PM (#29800359)

Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN; especially not the tit-for-tat kind where two users butt heads and get their horns entangled.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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