Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by ekanes on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:18PM
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It doesn't sound like you really tried to get this funding, but are mildly peeved it wasn't offered? If you want it, go get it. Unrelated: VCs aren't looking for 10x growth in the next 2 years. That's not a VC playbook.
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Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by caseymarquis on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:53PM
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Mostly I'm amused, but otherwise you're pretty on point. As an outsider acquiring VC funding seems very challenging and time consuming. We perform on parity with our VC funded competitors, and 10x growth will make us about 10 times their size. We're pulling this off without the advantages of their funding. I'd imagine we could shoot a little higher than 10x growth if we had millions of dollars to spend. Despite being better positioned with a significantly more effective growth strategy, we are not well connected, and so actually getting that VC money seems like more time and effort than we have on reserve.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by gumby on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:37PM
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If you can do it without them you’re better off. You’ll own more of your business.
Some businesses simply cannot operate that way (e.g. require a large cap ex) and so do need the outside money; for them the trade offs are worth it.
If you already have significant traction and really can grow 10X in two years (where 10X isn’t 200K->2MM) then there should be plenty of investors interested, if you know where to find them.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by dasil003 on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:11PM
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Hard to judge your numbers without knowing the baseline since 10x growth means very very different things at 100k MRR vs 1M MRR, but you are right that fundraising takes a lot of energy, and frankly there are strings attached whether you are connected or not. If you are already profitable and have good momentum there is huge value in controlling your own destiny.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by ekanes on Monday January 03, 2022 @09:20AM
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Awesome. You don't want VC, and you don't need VC! Stick to it and it sounds like you'll have a great outcome, entirely under your control.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by hw on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:10PM
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Why are folks so high on VC money, aside from having the network effects of a VC? Wouldn’t you rather get a bank loan if you have access to it without diluting equity?
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by gumby on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:39PM
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In the US debt financing is really only available for small businesses or well established ones.
There is an exception: there are specialized debt providers who lend specifically to venture funded businesses. I’m not sure if this is even an option outside the west coast.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by lmeyerov on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:21PM
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Most are: The mantra 3, 3, 2, 2 (annual) adds up to 9x revenue growth in first 2 years, and presumably, higher growth in upstream metrics to feed that . They will invest at 20-100x (and even 1000x+) multiples of revenue if they believe it.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by andi999 on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:09PM
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Can you explain the 3,3,2,2 in more detail?
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by mavelikara on Sunday January 02, 2022 @03:33PM
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https://techcrunch.com/2015/02/01/the-saas-travel-adventure/
There is more recent content written on this framework - Google for T2D3.
Re:Advice to startup founders: prepare to fail
by gnicholas on Sunday January 02, 2022 @03:53PM
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Ah, good to see the context — which apparently requires having $2M of ARR before you start.