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Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by chrisseaton on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:09PM (#29770621)
Do you listen to audio books, podcasts, or talk radio? I listen to audio books while running, so I get an hour of running and an hour of literature for the price of one, every day. Also motivates me to go for the run because I want to hear what's happening next in the book.
Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by the_af on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:26PM (#29770876)
I don't, maybe I should try this. But again, the pull of actually doing something sedentary (I have multiple hobbies) is always stronger...
Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by chrisseaton on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:30PM (#29770942)
> the pull of actually doing something sedentary (I have multiple hobbies) is always stronger...

You need to make it an absolute red-line in your life. You wouldn't go a day without cleaning your teeth, and you wouldn't do another hobby instead of cleaning your teeth - make exercising like that.

I exercise every day, and I think that's actually a lot easier than exercising five times a week, allowing you to pick which days you exercise or not. You can't kid with yourself that you'll exercise tomorrow if your routine is to exercise every day. Sometimes I get back from work at 11pm and I'll still drag myself out for an hour's run.

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by the_af on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:43PM (#29771172)
I totally understand what you're saying and completely agree with you, but...

... you know the difficulty of telling someone "don't get distracted" or "don't procrastinate"? It won't work. It's the same with me and exercise, I agree with you on an intellectual level, and I'm well aware of the dangers of my unhealthy lifestyle. But I just can't find the motivation to do it.

Like I replied elsewhere, I would definitely do trekking or biking if I lived in a place more suitable for those activities. I enjoy trekking and walking when I'm on vacation (my vacations tend to involve lots and lots of walking).

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by chrisseaton on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:47PM (#29771245)
What do you think about the teeth cleaning analogy though?

Do you ever get distracted from cleaning your teeth or procrastinate or put off cleaning your teeth? I guess you don't and it's a normal effortless part of your day that you hardly think about - why is that? Can you use whatever natural habit you do to get yourself to do that to exercise?

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by the_af on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:23PM (#29771791)
I guess the difference with tooth brushing, showering, etc, is that they take very little time (ok: not true with me and showering: I find pleasurable to let my thoughts wander, so I take a longer time than needed). But brushing your teeth? It takes very little time commitment, you don't have the chance to get bored!

I can even think about the stuff I'm about to do while I brush my teeth. Let's compare it with doing martial arts: most teachers require you to be "in the moment", not think of something else.

I suppose this is why I think I would like trekking if I lived in a suitable location. You can walk, enjoy the scenery, and think of something else.

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by entelechy0 on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:43PM (#29772050)
My god, he's still going!

Have you ever tried going more than a day without cleaning your teeth? Have you ever had so little energy, motivation, or otherwise give-a-care to just not-do-it when going to bed at night?

Why do you insist on this being the baseline when you've clearly never struggled to do this?

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by chrisseaton on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:46PM (#29772090)
> Why do you insist on this being the baseline

I didn't - that's why I asked - and then qualified my advice with it applies if that's the case.

> Have you ever had so little energy, motivation, or otherwise give-a-care to just not-do-it when going to bed at night?

Obviously this advice isn't going to be appropriate for someone with serious mental-health issues. It's advice for someone who wants to do some exercise and is struggling to get going, not someone facing more complex problems as well.

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by the_af on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:16PM (#29772491)
For what it's worth, I didn't find your suggestions bad and I appreciate them.

I don't suffer from depression or mental health issues, I just find exorcising boring and don't have the motivation for it. There's plenty of things I'd rather be doing, it's not that I'm a coach potato watching TV all day long :)

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by entelechy0 on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:42PM (#29772030)
You've never had true depression.

My teeth are rotting out of my head due to poor dental hygiene from years ago. The road back up sometimes begins in a deep hole vertical-ascent, and that can feel daunting, even hopeless at times.

You wouldn't talk on the Internet unless you had experience. Everyone loves to brow-beat.

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by chrisseaton on Sunday January 02, 2022 @01:45PM (#29772069)
Simple advice from experience is obviously not going to be applicable to everyone. This is what works for me.

By the way did you know you've been hell-banned for five years? That's why almost nobody's been relying to your comments for the past half-decade.

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by wheelinsupial on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:47PM (#29772915)
Have you looked into kettlebells? [1] has a lot of information on training with kettlebells. You need to get past the whole comrade language they use and a few other mannerisms, but there is some useful information.

The main points I think might interest you are the idea of “grease the groove” training and “program minimum” plans.

They don’t advocate for doing multi-hour gym sessions. You can get a kettlebell and a chin up bar and exercise from home. You can do a couple of sets of swings and pull-ups (or push ups or dips) before or after work if you work in an office. If you work from home, you can do a set every hour. It will take 1 minute or less and can be incorporated into your daily tasks. Since it’s not overly strenuous, you won’t break a sweat and won’t need to take a shower to interrupt your day.

Anyway, if you don’t want to do it, then enjoy your hobbies!

[1] https://www.strongfirst.com/

Re:Poll: How much time on average do you exercise in a week? by vowelless on Sunday January 02, 2022 @12:17PM (#29770730)
I started to do this recently. It is amazing how motivated I am to walk/run because I want to know whats next in the book.