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Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by SamoyedFurFluff on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:02AM (#29758857)
Wait, do I understand this correctly that because you have heard of cases happening in vaccinated people, without studying them as broad populations, you think there isn’t a statistical difference in vaccinated and unvaccinated people as a population?

Why?

Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by dekhn on Saturday January 01, 2022 @11:00AM (#29759598)
While I understand where you are coming from, pretty much all the observational evidence is pointing to vaccines not being particularly effective against omicron, which seems to explain the data we are seeing (massive surge in infections and hospitalizations). That alone is enough information to reasonably conclude that the vaccine does not provide a high level of protection against omicron, even if we are nto doing a large-N population comparison.
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by huntertwo on Saturday January 01, 2022 @11:22AM (#29759836)
Another explanation, the one that's more probable, is that omicron is much more infectious than the previous variants.

Actual studies that look at evidence and test hypotheses seem to suggest that mRNA vaccines are effective.

Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by lordloki on Saturday January 01, 2022 @07:00PM (#29764218)
Those studies don't really exist yet for Omicron, so you are working on faith not science.
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by huntertwo on Saturday January 01, 2022 @07:18PM (#29764342)
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Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by dang on Saturday January 01, 2022 @05:09PM (#29763369)
Please don't take HN threads on generic flamewar tangents. They're repetitive, tedious, and usually turn nasty.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: it looks like your account has been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not allowed here, regardless of what you're battling for, because it destroys what this site is supposed to be for. We ban accounts that do it, so please stop doing it.

Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by SamoyedFurFluff on Saturday January 01, 2022 @10:25AM (#29759162)
Um… I think we have a fundamental disagreement on what sources of information we cite! Do you have non-governmental sources of information we can mutually agree upon to discuss instead? Thank you!