Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by SavantIdiot on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:20PM (#29751491)

It's not politics. It is a practical reality that it is dangerous. As dangerous as coal plants. But for some reason HN likes to turn a blind eye to un-disposable toxic waste and the potential for citywide devastation (Chernobyl).

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by yakshaving_jgt on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:30PM (#29751616)

You are delusional.

Coal plants kill millions of people worldwide every year.

How many people died from Chernobyl? About 50, despite over 100,000 people working at the site on cleanup. The adjacent reactors continued to run and provide power for about a decade after the incident.

How many people died of radiation poisoning at Fukushima? Zero.

Zero!

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by protastus on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:39PM (#29751731)

> How many people died from Chernobyl? About 50, despite over 100,000 people working at the site on cleanup. The adjacent reactors continued to run and provide power for about a decade after the incident.

I am surprised you're quoting official Soviet numbers. Numbers that weren't updated since the early days of the accident.

> How many people died of radiation poisoning at Fukushima? Zero.

At what cost?

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by jacquesm on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:44PM (#29751788)

Besides the spike in thyroid cancers, from the Baltics to Poland, Romania and Ukraine on down.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/04/1008292

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by sam_lowry_ on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @02:10PM (#29813453)

This is 4000 deaths spread statistically over I do not remember how many tens of years.

Check for yourself: https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub913e_web.p...

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by SavantIdiot on Friday December 31, 2021 @03:11PM (#29752051)

Your logic: no one died today, ergo it must be safe.

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by yakshaving_jgt on Friday December 31, 2021 @03:38PM (#29752303)

You should consider changing your position. It’s not too late for that.

Happy New Year.

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by pphysch on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:25PM (#29751551)

Devastation is a strong word. The restricted area around Chernobyl is incredibly wild and lush right now. It's just humans that don't want to live there for credible health concerns.

Excessive resource extraction causes devastation.

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by yakshaving_jgt on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:34PM (#29751669)

> It's just humans that don't want to live there for credible health concerns.

A significant population of residents actually moved back there, despite the restrictions. I believe all of the former residents of Chernobyl (which is actually a tiny village) are now dead, the last old babushka passing in October/November 2016. I visited what was left of her house.

There are still plenty of people living in and around the exclusion zone for various reasons (mostly military).

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by forgotmypw17 on Friday December 31, 2021 @05:23PM (#29753117)

The area for hundreds of kilometers radius around Chernobyl, including Kiev, is still contaminated, with effects on people's health still being felt.

It is common to downplay the effects of the accident, but it is huge.

(I'm originally from that area.)

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by sam_lowry_ on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @04:42PM (#29815406)

I am surprised people do not know coal plants are a major source of radiation in Eastern Europe.

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Re:Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants by xondono on Friday December 31, 2021 @02:35PM (#29751682)

Because that waste is tiny and controllable.

All energy sources are dangerous, the toxic waste from making the batteries required for solar + wind only is no joke.

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