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Re:Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective... by londons_explore on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @09:40PM (#29732909)
I wonder what results you'd get if you tried a treatment which was literal torture...?

Eg. "We'll poke this red hot poker into you 10 times to cure your depression"... Many painful screams later... "So, is the depression any better now, or should we do more treatment?".. "Yes, yes, I'm pretty much cured!".

How can we be sure that this 'torture effect' isn't whats being measured here? Especially when the treatment appears to have unpleasent side effects, and the success of the treatment is measured with patient feedback...

Re:Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective... by arcticfox on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @10:45PM (#29733332)
Wouldn't the patients just opt out of the trial rather than continue and lie to the researchers? Nobody's being forced into it
Re:Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective... by hsn915 on Thursday December 30, 2021 @04:10AM (#29735040)
You can't assume that.

Part of being depressed is you don't even have the will to resist being treated in a way that you don't like.

In fact, I'd say that feeling powerless against conditions that you don't like is the core of what depression is.

It's why someone who is depressed doesn't feel like doing anything, because they feel like no matter what they do nothing will ever change so nothing they do is ever worth the effort.

Re:Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective... by hsn915 on Thursday December 30, 2021 @04:13AM (#29735062)
It doesn't need to be that intrusive.

Just mildly uncomfortable .. for a period of time longer than one would be willing to tolerate.

Something like being at the dentist when you have many cavities in your teeth.

You can tolerate one or two sessions. But the idea of doing it every day for two weeks straight is unbearable enough that you decide on the third day to report feeling well.