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Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by throw0101a on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @11:57AM (#29715490)
> I share your concerns but at the same time I think, why would we even need a SIM?

In the Before Times: handy for travel. Having a (e)SIM for your personal number (but perhaps disable data), and when you arrive at your destination just pop in a new physical SIM for local data (and calling).

> We don't have SIMs for ADSL or Fiber internet?

I wish we did. At least for ADSL you can use PPPoE to login into a network with whatever hardware you wish to use instead of the telco's often janky, underpowered stuff. With fibre (GPON) they often lock in the MAC of the optic, so good luck using something else besides whatever is provided. If you're lucky you can remove the SFP module and put it into whatever you want.

This may not be useful for 99% of the population, but given this is HN we're on, I think a lot of folks can appreciate being 'hardware agnostic'.

Otherwise we're back to the 1960s when only Officially Approved™ equipment can be connected:

* https://www.cybertelecom.org/notes/att_antitrust.htm

Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by fomine3 on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @07:49PM (#29720319)
AFAIK PON based system needs encryption/decryption by ONU because it separates single fiber passively so downlink can be tapped. Encryption key is burned to each ONU.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by throw0101a on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @09:36PM (#29721100)
(All? Most? Many?) ONTs support 802.1X for authenticating network access, which supports EAP. And EAP-SIM is one available mechanism, though usually used on the wireless side of networking.

In Canada, Bell had their "Home Hub 3000" and plenty of folks took out the optic and put it in their own hardware; this possibility was 'discontinued' with the Home Hub 4000, which no longer has a removable optic. There is nothing inherent on the ONT that limits connectivity except the arbitrary telco design choices.