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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by qayxc on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:03AM (#29714392)
To be fair, the exposed pin problem is specifically a North American one - no EU product features all-metal pins. Only the the very tip is metal and half-inserted plugs cannot expose metal parts (you only have plastic exposed in that case).
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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by iso1631 on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:14AM (#29714494)
The pictures on the wikipedia page would tend to differ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko#/media/File:Schuko_plug...

Entirely metal pins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko#/media/File:Schuko_plug...

Entirely metal pins in a semi-recessed socket that's common enough in Europe

Europlugs are insulated, but have other problems.

The largest problem in my view in Europe is the sheer number of standards that are partially compatible with each other with differing results.

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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by qayxc on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @12:11PM (#29715642)
These rubber connectors cannot be halt inserted while still making contact - that would only work with EU plugs, which have partially insulated pins for this exact reason.

If you try and half insert the other type of plug, you'd be met with a thick plastic body, but not exposed pins.

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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by iso1631 on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @12:17PM (#29715708)
There is literally a photo of a shuko plug half inserted into a relatively common European socket and a claim that the pin is in contact with the terminal.

Shuko are not as safe as they should be because they are easily misused.

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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by vel0city on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @11:49AM (#29715405)
The Schuko plug referenced above is a plug used in some EU countries. The pins are all-metal and shows a picture of an example where the half-inserted pins are exposed and does not have a ground connected.

So yes, some EU products feature all-metal pins. And yes, on those plugs half-inserted plugs do expose metal parts.

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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by qayxc on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @12:09PM (#29715622)
> So yes, some EU products feature all-metal pins. And yes, on those plugs half-inserted plugs do expose metal parts.

Ever tried to half insert such plug? You'd be met with a thick plastic since these plugs cannot be half inserted while exposing the pins (hence the full metal pins).

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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by vel0city on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @02:07PM (#29716816)
Ever look at a link included in a comment chain?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko#/media/File:Schuko_plug...

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Re:Alexa suggests lethal challenge to child by qayxc on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @12:29PM (#29797333)
That's not a Schoku socket!

Plugging the wrong type of plug into the wrong type of socket will lead to that.

That's a nice strawman, since the plug and the socket belong to different systems.

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