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Re:Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice? by analog31 on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:13PM (#29705731)
My observation is that while religious people are kind and charitable, religious societies tend to be the opposite. An example is that the US is full of charitable organizations, yet in the aggregate, we are relatively uncharitable as a nation, especially towards the poor and weak. And how religious organizations actually spend their money overseas is anybody's guess, when a little bit of money can buy a lot of political power in a poor country.

From my reading of the gospel stories, this doesn't shock me. The religious doctrines have a lot to say about individual behavior, whether you agree with them or not, but nothing to say about how societies and governments treat people. In fact, my impression is that the gospels consider societies and governments to be irredeemable, and offer the "good news" of basically saving the good individuals and incinerating everything else, soon.

With this said, I'm hesitant to make a strong argument of this, because I have a rule that I don't try to interpret anybody else's religious doctrines or holy books. I hope that someone's religion motivates them to build a better society, but I can't prove that such a thing accurately reflects their doctrines.

Re:Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice? by kbelder on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:47PM (#29706052)
I'd check your assumption that the US in aggregate tends to be uncharitable.

While it doesn't tell the whole store, in financial terms the US leads the world in per capital charitable contributions (by a significant margin).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_charitabl...

Re:Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice? by analog31 on Monday December 27, 2021 @03:11PM (#29706256)
I'm thinking about quality of life measures such as infant mortality, life expectancy, car crashes (just pulling a few things out of the hat), policy on global warming, etc. Not charitable contributions but actual charity. Also, I was talking about charity towards our own people.