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Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by MattGaiser on Monday December 27, 2021 @12:37AM (#29699692)
I would be interested in knowing if that would be legal. As might you technically have purchased your license?
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by ummonk on Monday December 27, 2021 @01:01AM (#29699862)
Copyright violation is a tort, not a crime. If you were sued for it, they'd have a hard time proving damages given that you have paid for a valid license.
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by Freak_NL on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:55AM (#29700453)
You would have to stick exclusively to downloading though. As soon as you upload as well (e.g., torrents) the defence that you have a valid licence for your personal use no longer suffices. And even if you are fine from a legal standpoint (which I fear may not be the case in every jurisdiction), there is still the financial risk of getting sued by someone with much bigger pockets.
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by jcranberry on Monday December 27, 2021 @10:48AM (#29703411)
The defendant in a copyright violation case is not just liable for actual damages. The plaintiff can elect to take either actual damages or $750 to $30,000 per copyright infringement. This can rise to up to $150,000 if it is determined to be willful copyright infringement.

https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-17-copyrights/17-usc-sect...

Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by User23 on Monday December 27, 2021 @01:13AM (#29699935)
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by ummonk on Monday December 27, 2021 @03:58AM (#29700786)
Good point.

Though that criminal statue wouldn't apply to the actions described here, it is indeed an example of how copyright violations of some kinds can be crimes, even felonies.

Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by lostcolony on Monday December 27, 2021 @12:41AM (#29699722)
Generally speaking, it's uploading/transferring content to others that is illegal, not downloading it for yourself. At least, de facto if not de jure.
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by humanistbot on Monday December 27, 2021 @12:50AM (#29699788)
In most jurisdictions, copyright infringement isn't a crime, it is a civil tort, meaning you can be sued by the copyright holder for damages. Most big media copyright holders (MPAA/RIAA/etc) have a policy of only going after uploaders because it just isn't cost effective to go after downloaders for damages. A downloader can only be sued for the retail value of what they downloaded, while uploaders can be sued for the retail value of what they uploaded times the number of downloads. But this isn't codified in law, it is just corporate policy.
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by AussieWog93 on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:29AM (#29700325)
>A downloader can only be sued for the retail value of what they downloaded

Is this the actual law?

I remember hearing about people being sued for $100k+ just for downloading a few albums back in the Limewire days.

Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by ramchip on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:33AM (#29700344)
Most likely they were also distributing (uploading), not just downloading.
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by AussieWog93 on Monday December 27, 2021 @04:25AM (#29700927)
Reading the EFF's history (and thinking about how the technology works for one second!), it seems this was how the lawsuits were put forth.
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by xhrpost on Monday December 27, 2021 @12:46AM (#29699753)
I remember a story a while back of a gentleman who had a house fire and then went and later pirated all the music CDs he had lost. I think they interviewed a copyright lawyer who basically says that the law doesn't permit that, I remember the quote that buying a copy entitles you to a copy and that "there is no such thing as a listening right".
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by MattGaiser on Monday December 27, 2021 @01:05AM (#29699891)
But is it that particular copy? If I backup a digital file that I buy and it gets deleted and I have to restore from the backup, is that offside?
Re:Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth o... by sp332 on Monday December 27, 2021 @12:56AM (#29699828)
That's a little different. Copyright, without any license involved, is very strict about the copying, how the copy gets made and where it's copied from. But if there's a license, things might get fuzzier.