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Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by duiker101 on Sunday December 26, 2021 @10:09PM (#29698702)
In Italy, Debit Cards are also the norm and still verified with Avis if they were accepting them and they confirmed they do. And yet, when I tried to pick up a car in Milan with a debit card, I was told that they don't allow debit cards and therefore I could not pick up the card and they would be keeping the money I paid for the whole week.

I will NEVER use Avis again and encourage everyone to do the same. !00% Scam company.

After the whole ordeal I called again and their sales department insists that they accept debit cards.

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by zoomablemind on Monday December 27, 2021 @01:25AM (#29700006)
I thought the usual deal about the debit cards and rental has been that one can pay with the debit card on returning the car, but needs a credit card in own name for renting the car.

Still, the credit card may be needed in case of unpaid tolls/ parking tickets, which may get posted after a few weeks.

Btw, quite commonly in the US the debit cards have a Visa (MC) logo, so may be charged as such without the need for PIN. Only cash withdrawal will require a PIN. But I guess the card number identifies these as debit cards nevertheless.

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by srg0 on Monday December 27, 2021 @09:55AM (#29702937)
I used Avis in Italy many times, and don't remember that it ever were possible to get the car without a credit card. Actually, it's in their FAQ:

https://faq.avisautonoleggio.it/Res-Channeling/Reservation-E...

In short, the translation is: prepaid cards (and only certain types, not Electron/Cirrus/etc) can be used to pay online only, and another card among those accepted (i.e. a credit card) should be presented at the desk.

The UK version of the FAQ tells basically the same:

https://faq.avis.co.uk/1492093922

"PREPAID cards are accepted online however they are not accepted at the counter which means a non-PREPAID card must be shown at the rental station (together with the PREPAID card)"

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by silverpepsi on Sunday December 26, 2021 @11:32PM (#29699255)
Should have recorded the call to use in your fraud case to charge back the money with the help of your bank
Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by jjav on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:17AM (#29700262)
Had it been a credit card one could do a chargeback based on service not provided. But on a debit card.. good luck.

Always use a credit card for your own safety.

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by lawl on Monday December 27, 2021 @04:10AM (#29700843)
> Had it been a credit card one could do a chargeback based on service not provided. But on a debit card.. good luck.

Can you elaborate? I live in europe and basically all mc/visa are actually debit cards. Yet i never had an issue with chargeback. In fact they always warn that it may take a long time to process with mc/visa. But the next day the bank refunds me the money tentatively already, presumably because they're confident i'll win?

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by srg0 on Monday December 27, 2021 @10:44AM (#29703377)
> I live in europe and basically all mc/visa are actually debit cards.

That's not true. I'd expect that most of the credit cards are MC/Visa, and there are more debit cards in EU than credit cards, and among debit cards there are many debit MC/Visa, but that does mean that "basicall all mc/visa" in Europe are debit cards.

Edit. Found some stats. https://ec.europa.eu/competition/sectors/financial_services/... "Report on the application of Regulation (EU) 2015/751 on interchange fees for card-based payment transactions".

Page 24, Fig. 5 and page 25, Fig. 6. Debit cards in EU in 2016: 78% of the transactions are with domestic schemes, 99.5% of the rest were MC/Visa. Credit cards: 68% used domestic schemes, 94.3% of the rest were MC/Visa. It's not the most recent data, but still proves the point.

In other words, MC/Visa were used a lot both as credit cards, and as debit cards.

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by jjav on Monday December 27, 2021 @05:02AM (#29701125)
> I live in europe and basically all mc/visa are actually debit cards.

I doubt that is true, can you expand on that with some references?

I know there are many cards which are both a credit card and a debit card but that just means two cards in one package. But credit and debit are still fundamentally different networks with different rules. A debit transaction hits your account right away and the money has been taken out. A credit transaction settles later and can be paid from any source, it is not tied to any specific account.

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by orangepanda on Monday December 27, 2021 @05:39AM (#29701307)
Its debit cards but with a mastercard/visa logo.

Even for big purchases/traveling credit cards are not that common.

Re:The absurdity of renting a car will no longer be tolerated by duiker101 on Monday December 27, 2021 @11:17AM (#29703701)
I actually have. I'll see if I can post it