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Re:The Last Soviet Generation by twelve40 on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:55PM (#29680547)
> during Brezhnev's time, GDP went into guns and away from butter

The peak of shortages happened not during Brezhnev but in the 80's during Gorby's rule.

> a system which stunted their potential

Did launch man in space somehow. Plenty of people realized their potential.

Re:The Last Soviet Generation by mc32 on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:01AM (#29680581)
Stores had cigs, vodka, butter and milk and tubers (awesome!!)

And so you stunt the growth not only of Russians but many other non-Russian nationalities so that a few scientists might have a summer dacha and a car and plane trips back to the city for wives to and fro the science town in nowheresville --while they are under threat to have their families sent to gulags if milestones aren't met... nice!

Re:The Last Soviet Generation by FpUser on Saturday December 25, 2021 @02:49AM (#29681331)
>"while they are under threat to have their families sent to gulags if milestones aren't met... nice!"

It was true during Stalin. Not sure about Kruschev era laws. After that nobody would be sent to gulag for not meeting milestones so cut the bullshit. It is like segregation in the US. It was true until it was not. Or that women in Canada could be jailed in specialized jails (they were called differently) for being of wrong moral character. Not true anymore either.

Re:The Last Soviet Generation by selimthegrim on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:14AM (#29680651)
If you read Khalatnikov’s memoirs he realizes that whole country was turned into a gulag ostensibly for scientists’ sake and is remorseful of the fact
Re:The Last Soviet Generation by artem247 on Saturday December 25, 2021 @05:22AM (#29682010)
>> Stores had cigs, vodka, butter and milk and tubers (awesome!!)

Where do you get it from? Of course it depended on time and place, but you can buy a lot of stuff in Kyiv (for example) in 70's and 80's. Some things were 'deficit', but they were more of a luxury items. Also the quality was rather good, due to not having cost cutting.

>> a few scientists might have a summer dacha Dachas were not exactly a sign of the elite. Cars, on the other hand...

>> science town in nowheresville These things existed for some sort of top-secret military research, there were plenty of R&D labs in big cities for a more mundane subjects.

You just have an axe to bury with communism, don't you?