IMO casual masking (stores, airplanes, etc) and a shot every 6 months isn't the annoying part about covid, it's the economic damage of lockdowns, school closures, social gatherings missed, extreme isolation of the vulnerable, travel not happening and the supply chain logjams it has been creating everywhere as a result. You can't go to an office consistently and have face to face lunches coworkers with as a result.

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death - they prevent it, but what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky

It would seem fairly important to actually ask the grandmas what they think about this, rather than decide on their behalf.

The four elderly members of our immediate family are all fairly adamant that the young have suffered enough, and "hell, yes" they want to see their grandkids, and no, they aren't asking about vaccinations and negative tests.

I'm minded to respect their opinions.

Yes, and we don't ask them either if they'd feel better if we took them, we just do it for them, it's understood.

I agree. However, the currently existing vaccines don’t seem to do anything at all to stop the spread, so your biannual vaccination does not help grandma much.

How are you estimating what the spread would have been in the absence of vaccination to draw that conclusion?

I'm afraid you have no more relevant knowledge in the subject then I do, which means your claims shouldn't be considered as an authoritative in any way, despite being stated as such. I'm out of here.

"U.S. COVID-19 Deaths in 2021 Surpass 2020 Total"

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211122/us-covid-deaths-202...