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Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by 4oh9do on Thursday December 23, 2021 @01:14AM (#29659177)
> Fast fashion is a root cause of a huge amount of fabric waste, plastic waste, and cost shifting of waste streams to developing nations.

How does all of that waste compare to all of the waste involved in making your comment? Not just the infra required to host it and distribute it, but the devices required for you to make it. Kind of turning a blind eye to the amount of "cost shifting of waste streams to developing nations" that electronic devices create.

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by foepys on Thursday December 23, 2021 @01:30AM (#29659245)
This is whataboutism.

Fast fashion clothing often falls apart after a single wash and at the latest after two. They are meant to worn once and then to be disposed. I agree that some electronics like smartphones should be made to last for more than 2 years but fast fashion creates much, much more plastic waste on its own. We already know how to make longer lasting, more environment friendly clothing, so it's not like we couldn't do any better.

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by kuschku on Thursday December 23, 2021 @02:45AM (#29659599)
The pure cotton clothes I bought on shein have the same quality I'd expect from H&M or C&A. They're well sewn and came with replacement buttons for resewing as well.

So your comment seems to be quite the hyperbole.

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by colinmhayes on Thursday December 23, 2021 @09:22AM (#29662060)
H&M clothes are meant to be worn once and then tossed.
Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by Semaphor on Thursday December 23, 2021 @02:02AM (#29659415)
> Fast fashion clothing often falls apart after a single wash and at the latest after two

Is that hyperbole? Or is it really that bad? I always thought fast fashion meant stuff like those cheap Amazon brands (!Solid etc.) that only last around a year…

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by bobthepanda on Thursday December 23, 2021 @02:49AM (#29659615)
Your mileage may vary.

Anecdotally, it seems like women’s fast fashion falls apart a lot faster than men’s apparel from the same brands. And some brands are a lot worse than others (e.g. Forever 21 is a lot worse than H&M)

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by Semaphor on Thursday December 23, 2021 @05:47AM (#29660582)
Worse than H&M? Wow.
Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by bobthepanda on Thursday December 23, 2021 @04:47PM (#29666890)
At least in the States, I can wear an H&M shirt fairly reasonably for a year or two without significant damage.

I bought a F21 shirt exactly once and on the third wash there were numerous holes in it.

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by alisonkisk on Thursday December 23, 2021 @12:42PM (#29664232)
Women's fashion also uses a small fraction of the fabric in men's fashion.
Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by qmmmur on Thursday December 23, 2021 @05:09AM (#29660390)
A single item of clothing lasting a year is not a good outcome.
Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by Semaphor on Thursday December 23, 2021 @05:47AM (#29660579)
Yes, which is why I assumed that is what fast fashion meant.
Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by alisonkisk on Thursday December 23, 2021 @12:43PM (#29664237)
It depends on how many wearings and how much material is in it.
Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by lmm on Thursday December 23, 2021 @04:39AM (#29660231)
> How does all of that waste compare to all of the waste involved in making your comment? Not just the infra required to host it and distribute it, but the devices required for you to make it.

Extremely poorly? Computers, especially servers and the kind of clients that HN users tend to favour, are built to be robust and last years if not decades; many HN folk are proud of how long theirs last. The kind of computer that gets thrown away quickly is the fashion-driven kind, and that's not a coincidence.

Re:Shein beat Amazon and reinvented fast fashion by moonchrome on Thursday December 23, 2021 @01:32AM (#29659255)
If he was using a phone/laptop that costs 100$ and gets thrown away every 3 months I could see your point otherwise I don't get it.

His waste comment is compared to a baseline of something more durable.