Re:Tirana Prosecution to Investigate Alleged Data Leak of Mo...
by smoe on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @07:55PM
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Seems like a cultural thing where the father's name is part of your own name in official documents.
"a complete name usually consists of a given name; the given name of the individual's father, which is seldom included except in official documents; and a family name"
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by alchemism on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @09:16PM
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This is also true in Greece - it originates from either Balkan or Orthodox culture I figure.
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by MobiusHorizons on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @11:51PM
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It’s called a patronymic, and is also part of the legal name in At least Ukraine and Russia . Interestingly in those countries the last name is something which only really shows up in official documents, instead the patronymic is used in much the same way as a last name is in English. For instance the Russian equivalent of John Doe is Ivan Ivanovich which just means Ivan son of Ivan.
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by dinvlad on Thursday December 23, 2021 @01:46AM
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I've made a mistake of using my patronymic as my middle name in US docs. It's actually more like a second last name, as you noted.
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by vukgr on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @07:55PM
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Not 100% sure its the same in Albania, but in Serbia it's the de facto middle name for most people.
So you need it on most documents.
Mother's name also works, but most people still default to the father's name.
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by justsomehnguy on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @08:28PM
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by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @07:53PM
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"In Albania a complete name usually consists of a given name (Albanian: emri); the given name of the individual's father (Albanian: atësia), which is seldom included except in official documents; and a (most commonly patrilineal) family name or surname (Albanian: mbiemri)."
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by burundi_coffee on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @08:17PM
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The father's name is used to distinguish people that have the same name. For example you would say Max Webber [of] John. Of course, birthdays are also used.
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by jolmg on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @08:25PM
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> Max Webber [of] John
Kind of like Johnson.
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by spoonjim on Thursday December 23, 2021 @02:37AM
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It's called a patronymic -- it's used in formal address and if you read Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy you'll hear the characters always use the patronymic with each other if they have a formal relationship. They'll say "Sofia Semyonovna" every single time, not just once. You can't say it's a "middle name" or a "second last name" really, it's its own thing.
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by mastazi on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @09:22PM
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It's more like a middle name, in the sense that it is used in official documents to distinguish people who have the same first and last name.
Other countries have similar mechanisms, I remember when I was living in Brazil I had to provide nome da mãe (name of the mother) and nome do pai (name of the father) to get some documents done.
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by hashimotonomora on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @07:59PM
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It’s not unusual: in Israel the names of your parents are written in your ID.
I am curious about the "father's name" part. Is it a security thing in Albania, kind of how "mother's maiden name" used to be a security question for my credit card in the US?