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Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by earthbee on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:20PM (#29654554)
It typically takes three weeks to go from being a case to dead, given how quickly it was rising it was very hard to get a good sense of how many people were likely to die before it was already infecting huge numbers of people.

That's not panic, that's justifiable concern about a new strain of a virus that has killed millions of people around the world already.

Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by endisneigh on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:23PM (#29654623)
Most people who died were not vaccinated
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by ds206 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:29PM (#29654707)
Most people that died were 60+ years old
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by endisneigh on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:30PM (#29654719)
Yes, who were not vaccinated as it didn’t exist for much of the pandemic.
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by fortran77 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:50PM (#29654982)
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by nsxwolf on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:57PM (#29655078)
Most people are obese.
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by fortran77 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @04:13PM (#29655287)
Well, "overweight" by CDCs definition (BMI > 25 == overweight). But there's a strong link between complications from COVID and Obesity. It's a shame nobody wants to make the obese pay for their externalities -- even the people who'd like to make the unvaccinated "pay" in some way turn a blind eye to this issue.
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by eropple on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @06:57PM (#29657038)
If you want to make "the obese" "pay for their externalities", I do hope you have a fantastic plan in place to break the backs of the Nabiscos of the world who literally-not-figuratively design for habituation and drum their marketing into every place they can.

The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat".

Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by fortran77 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:18PM (#29658285)
> The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat".

I tend to think adults are capable of being responsible for their own decisions, including how much to eat.

Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by eropple on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @11:22PM (#29658626)
The reality of food scientists designing these things to feel good and to habituate in a world of constant stress with few affordable and time-permitting outlets is a pretty obvious problem with this sort of claim. So is the fact that these bastards push to kids, and a reasonable person might find it a little odd that, at best and most generously, you want to punish people for the outcomes of inadequate parenting.

But it's much easier to blame fat people than the pushers, and it feels so much more satisfying to break out the hauteur about them as opposed to the businesses that tech people with tech salaries might someday seek to emulate, so--I guess I get it.

Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by nsxwolf on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @04:17PM (#29655342)
That's the issue though, everyone points out the correlation, but of course there's a correlation. Everyone's overweight. Need more analysis to show just how much it affects COVID outcomes. While it would have been nice for the governments to make more of an effort to get people to lose weight during the pandemic, it's not guaranteed it would have had the results some people expect.
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by 1over137 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @04:23PM (#29655438)
Most people are not obese. Though in some countries it's certainly getting there. :(
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by forgatmigej on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:31PM (#29654735)
And most people who were infected were not vaccinated
Re:South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as f... by martin938 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:36PM (#29654805)
Source? Pfizer/AZ/ModeRNA?