Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by badams2527 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @09:58AM (#29650164)

Human capital side would disagree with that I think. You're assuming the organization which owns this small/medium web app has the personnel already on staff to handle such a thing.

If you're outsourcing that, you'd likely have to pay a boatload just for someone to be available for help, let alone the actual tasks themselves. Like you said, if you're on-prem and something goes down, you can do something. But you've gotta have the personnel to actually do something.

That said, I think you're spot-on as long as you have the skillset already.

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Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by Retric on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:09AM (#29650308)

You still need to pay someone to manage AWS infrastructure. It’s possible to save money using AWS, but things often get more expensive.

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Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by nostrebored on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:26AM (#29650519)

Of SMBs I’ve worked with, about 5% had a dedicated AWS engineer

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Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by Nextgrid on Thursday December 23, 2021 @01:52PM (#29665091)

Maybe non-tech businesses which I’m not very familiar with. But most startups absulutely have a dedicated DevOps engineer.

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Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by Nextgrid on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:08AM (#29650281)

> Human capital side would disagree with that I think

I hear this argument a lot, but every startup I've been involved with had a full-time DevOps engineer wrangling Terraform & YAML files - that same engineer can be assigned to manage the bare-metal infrastructure.

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Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by dragonwriter on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:21AM (#29650448)

> I hear this argument a lot, but every startup I've been involved with had a full-time DevOps engineer wrangling Terraform & YAML files - that same engineer can be assigned to manage the bare-metal infrastructure.

Bare metal infrastructure requires a lot more management at any given scale. I mean, you can run stuff that lets you do part of the management the same as cloud resources, but you also have to then manage that software and manage the hardware.

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Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by bcrosby95 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @11:13AM (#29651227)

Define "a lot".

We colocate about 20 servers and on the average month, no one spends any time managing them. At all.

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