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Re:Death by Coconut by BLKNSLVR on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @07:21PM (#29643877)
Given the minimal case numbers Australia has experienced, I'm firmly on the side of the response being appropriate.

And I'm firmly against most of the supposedly anti-terror laws Australia has rushed through in the last 20-odd years such metadata retention, backdoor enforcement upon request, and various mouthing-offs about encryption.

Real versus imagined threats. My version of...

Re:Death by Coconut by kerneloftruth on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @08:59AM (#29649342)
As it seems you approve of heavy-handed authoritarian means for handing a virus, why not for handling terrorism? I get the impression that to many Australians, "freedom" means freedom from risk, and loss of liberty is quite acceptable, making Franklin's famous quote so relevant (again): Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re:Death by Coconut by BLKNSLVR on Thursday December 23, 2021 @03:18PM (#29666018)
That's not how I see it at all, but maybe that's just because you're using heavily loaded language.

Also, one situation was decidedly real, the other much less tangible. Ironically, the "authoritarianism" as you put it, is temporary for the real situation and seemingly permanent for the imagined.

I'm totally aware how my position may look hypocritical, I'm trying to explain how it looks from the inside.

Re:Death by Coconut by coolso on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @12:32AM (#29645908)
> Given the minimal case numbers Australia has experienced, I'm firmly on the side of the response being appropriate.

China’s numbers have been pretty low too

Re:Death by Coconut by BLKNSLVR on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @01:08AM (#29646054)
The US has been punching well above its weight: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I wouldn't trust the numbers from places like India or China, however, and for different reasons.

Having known someone with COVID, and having family members with medical backgrounds, my personal judgement is that it was justified. I understand people disagree, and my assumption is that those who reply flippantly are missing parts of the bigger picture - usually over the other side of the fault line separating individual freedoms and the sacrifices required for participation in a functioning society.

I also won't say that everything has been done perfectly, far from it. The messaging has been uneven - masks / no masks as an oft-cited example. But, it's an essentially unprecedented situation, and politics ain't used to moving all that fast so, you know, move fast and break things like FB says, woo!