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Re:Ultrabook: Intel's $300 million plan to beat Apple at its... by mscarborough on Monday September 05, 2011 @11:39PM (#2964019)
No kidding.

I'm not an Apple fanboy but I use their laptop products. And according to the author, they should completely change their keyboard layout to better support UK-specific idioms (while ignoring other markets, but still keeping the production costs all under $1000 per unit), as well as to accommodate at least four new dedicated keys and a tiny mouse nipple.

That's just not going to happen.

Re:Ultrabook: Intel's $300 million plan to beat Apple at its... by ionfish on Tuesday September 06, 2011 @03:48AM (#2964592)
The missing # key is annoying, although it's not the kind of thing that would make me change operating systems. Apple's chosen shortcut for the '#' character is Alt+3 which is frustrating for terminal users who use Alt as the meta key—for example, it makes it hard to enter channel names in Irssi.
Re:Ultrabook: Intel's $300 million plan to beat Apple at its... by leon_ on Tuesday September 06, 2011 @04:46AM (#2964726)
Get Ukelele and change the keys' locations. I did that for #, @, \ and |.
Re:Ultrabook: Intel's $300 million plan to beat Apple at its... by DrPizza on Tuesday September 06, 2011 @05:54AM (#2964902)
That's what I do on my MacBook Pro. It was much more palatable than discarding years of typing experience.

I don't dispute that it works. But it does rather detract from, well, the aesthetic elegance of the machine. Apple has these fancy backlit keyboards--it's a great shame to make the keycaps wrong.

Plus, it also causes big problems when I let others use my machine. Hunt-and-peckers don't stand a chance when your keys are mismatched. Though they probably struggle even with the regular Apple layout--good luck finding # on the keyboard, since Apple doesn't deign to print it. Sure, once you know it's option-3 it's not so bad, but I don't know how you're meant to just figure that out for yourself.

And the thing is, it's all just gratuitous. Apple's layout isn't in any meaningful sense better. It's just... different.

Re:Ultrabook: Intel's $300 million plan to beat Apple at its... by jvdongen on Tuesday September 06, 2011 @08:25AM (#2965253)
... currently typing on a MBP with a clearly visible #, @, \ and | all reachable by merely using shift.

Is this only an issue with a US keyboard layout perhaps (I've a Dutch layout)?

Re:Ultrabook: Intel's $300 million plan to beat Apple at its... by splidge on Tuesday September 06, 2011 @08:57AM (#2965362)
It's an issue on UK keyboards.

UK keyboards on PCs have a dedicated key for #/~, " is shift-2 and @ is shift-'. £ (currency symbol) is shift-3.

On a Mac the " and @ are the wrong way round (shift-' and shift-2 respectively), and the key that should produce # instead generates \. The only way to get a # is option-3, which is not marked on the keys. The Mac "UK" layout is basically the US layout with £/# reversed.