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Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by jchw on Monday December 20, 2021 @10:00AM (#29625597)
I don’t usually vote up comments that are mostly humorous on HN, but there’s always an exception.

To me the problem isn’t that they might, but that they can. I guess the fault is technically on the person who rented something under terrible terms, but the problem to me is that over time terrible terms seem to win out over reasonable ones.

Not to mention, if Tesla is capable of doing this for rentals, I have to assume they are capable of doing it for any Tesla. Which is not great.

Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by usefulcat on Monday December 20, 2021 @11:12AM (#29626464)
> over time terrible terms seem to win out over reasonable ones

Tyranny of the marketplace, I guess. If most people are not bothered by the terrible terms, then the selection of items with non-terrible terms will be correspondingly small.

Case in point: I'd like to buy a TV (even at a higher price) that does not have ads all over the interface. From what I can tell, as of right now there are approximately a handful of such TVs, not counting older models that probably aren't produced any more. And of course out of that handful, most are not very good in other respects..

I don't know how to solve that apart from regulation, which is often a very poor solution.

Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by stalfosknight on Monday December 20, 2021 @02:15PM (#29628824)
My solution is to never setup wifi or provide ethernet to my TVs. They can't vomit ads all over the screen or track what you're watching if they can't get online.
Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by HideousKojima on Monday December 20, 2021 @02:04PM (#29628658)
Buy industrial signage displays. You'll be paying a significant premium but it's basically the only way to get a high quality non-smart tv these days.
Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by Moru on Monday December 20, 2021 @10:27AM (#29625941)
Or that any hacker that gets into Teslas system will have a field day.
Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by errcorrectcode on Monday December 20, 2021 @10:38AM (#29626073)
Mass theft, bricking, or actual crashing potential. It's a Futurama episode/ Sword of Damocles waiting to happen.
Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by dsr_ on Monday December 20, 2021 @11:10AM (#29626436)
Right. Compromise the right credentials, and you can order a high percentage of parked Teslas to start backing up.

That probably won't make them cause damage immediately -- I assume there's a set of sensors that will apply brakes rather than hit a wall or a detected car -- but there's a lot of chaos to apply that way.

I wonder if Tesla's EULA immunizes them against such breaches.

Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by voakbasda on Monday December 20, 2021 @11:44AM (#29626885)
The house always wins. Contract terms almost always give favor the issuer.
Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by tssva on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @07:25AM (#29636694)
If you don't pay us as agreed, we will take it back are terrible terms?
Re:Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to ... by jchw on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @03:27PM (#29654668)
You omitted the parts that are actually problematic.

I don’t give my mortgage company a copy of the keys to my house.