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Re:My parents collect cans for a living by EE84M3i on Monday December 20, 2021 @04:53AM (#29622956)
>Here all shops that sell such goods are required to accept the containers in return

How does this work for convenience stores or other non-supermarkets that incidentally sell drinks in cans/bottles? They have to have a machine?

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by qw on Monday December 20, 2021 @05:14AM (#29623086)
The machine is completely optional and just there to save time if they get a lot of deposits. They can handle it manually if they want to.

There is a limit to how large the deposit can be for stores without a machine. If you come with a big trash bag with bottles/cans, they have the right to refuse and refer you to a place with a machine (most grocery stores have machines)

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by oaiey on Monday December 20, 2021 @05:00AM (#29623005)
Well, not everyone needs to do a reverse vending machine. Just hand them back to the cashier and he returns you money. Goes that far that when a restaurant sells a full bottle they need to take it back.

We have this system also in Germany since the late 80s (I think) and it works very well. Current incentive ranges from 8ct (beer glass bottles ... beer lobby always has exceptions ;)) to 25ct (plastic bottles)

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by faeyanpiraat on Monday December 20, 2021 @05:13AM (#29623078)
Do the bottles need to be full size, or do they accept crushed ones?
Re:My parents collect cans for a living by MandieD on Monday December 20, 2021 @10:01AM (#29625616)
The lightweight plastic ones are "Einweg" ("single use"), and the deposit is to get the material back for recycling - as long as the deposit label will scan, it's accepted. It's easier to scan them in the automats if they're not crushed; my German husband does not seem to have fully internalized this, so I reinflate them when they get rejected.

Glass bottles (beer, juice, milk and yoghurt) are "Mehrweg" ("multi-use"), and they actually want a bottle to sterilize and reuse (preferably with metal lid in the case of the milk and joghurt bottles), so if it's broken, it's technically trash and should go in the Altglas (old glass) containers you see at least once in every city neighborhood.

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by ratww on Monday December 20, 2021 @11:12AM (#29626453)
> Glass bottles (beer, juice, milk and yoghurt) are "Mehrweg" ("multi-use")

There is also a special case of a Mehrweg 1L plastic bottle, used mostly by Coca Cola. It is also sterilised before reuse.

> preferably with metal lid in the case of the milk and joghurt bottles

Ooops, I didn't know that. Thank you.

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by max_hammer on Monday December 20, 2021 @05:26AM (#29623160)
If barcode is readable they accept semi-crushed bottles.
Re:My parents collect cans for a living by biztos on Monday December 20, 2021 @05:27AM (#29623171)
For plastic bottles at least for the machine you would have to un-crush it, it scans the bottle.

For beer bottles, I dunno, try it out and report back?

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by faeyanpiraat on Monday December 20, 2021 @10:39AM (#29626079)
It would be quite a long trip for me to try it.
Re:My parents collect cans for a living by ratww on Monday December 20, 2021 @11:15AM (#29626494)
How do you crush a beer bottle? They're always glass, no?

Or do you mean the beer can? In this case they can't be crushed, because the barcode has to be readable!

A friend tried hehe. If they're not too damaged you can put them back into shape, the machine is quite robust.

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by bouvin on Monday December 20, 2021 @04:58AM (#29622994)
At least here in Denmark, they very often do. If they do not, you can just hand the empty to the shopkeeper and they will reimburse you.
Re:My parents collect cans for a living by gnopgnip on Monday December 20, 2021 @04:59AM (#29622997)
In MI it is the same, small stores manually do it. You hand them a box with 12 cans in it and they credit you $1.20
Re:My parents collect cans for a living by bell-cot on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:32AM (#29624156)
My experience in MI* is that a fair number of stores can be rather sticky about returns - "we don't sell that brand", "did you buy it here?", "come back when the machine is fixed", etc.

Conveniently, I live in a large-enough urban area to just take my business elsewhere.

*Michigan, U.S.A.

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by ratww on Monday December 20, 2021 @11:18AM (#29626529)
Michigan's 10 cent rate is part of the plot of the legendary Seinfeld episode "The Bottle Deposit".

In this episode Kramer and Newman scheme a plan to deliver bottles from New York (where deposit was only 5c) to Michigan to cash in.

Re:My parents collect cans for a living by ubercore on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:31AM (#29624138)
At least where I am in Norway, there are far more grocery stores, but they're all smaller. So there are, relative to the US, fewer pure "convenience" stores, and more small groceries. Not sure if this holds true everywhere, but thought it added some context to your question.