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Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by klyrs on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:14AM (#29594164)
Yeah, that's weird in perspective. Snapchat's valuation doesn't give them buying power, but Apple has nearly 200B cash on hand -- they could theoretically buy and close down all of these manufacturers and test the hypothesis that Big Gun is causing all the shootings.
Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by halfmatthalfcat on Friday December 17, 2021 @12:19PM (#29595161)
Theoretically, could Apple buy S&W and…just shut it down? Would the government allow it? Curious…
Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by beerandt on Friday December 17, 2021 @06:01PM (#29599400)
Most arms manufacturers have contracts with the government, including contracts to operate govt-owned ammunition factories.

Even smaller companies that don't make a product with a major govt/ military contract often have contracts as secondary suppliers of 3rd party or military spec'd parts, like scopes, mounts, triggers, etc.

A buyer could shut down a company that holds such a contract, but then it would just go back up for public bid.

Additionally, military standards for ammo are very high, and companies make money selling "factory seconds" (that don't meet military qa/qc, but are otherwise fine) to the public, which is an included perk of these govt contracts. And isn't a negligible fraction of required production.

So even a hypothetical buyer that would meet its contractual obligation to the govt would do so at an additional cost compared a company selling seconds and surplus manufacturing capacity.

In short, the market won't change without major policy change, no matter what major players might be hypothetically bought and shut down.

Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by klyrs on Friday December 17, 2021 @12:48PM (#29595591)
I imagine that if they bought them all at the same time, it would be seen as anticompetitive. But if they bought them serially, and shut each down before acquiring the next, would that skirt the law? Curious indeed.
Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by colejohnson66 on Friday December 17, 2021 @02:01PM (#29596756)
From my non-lawyer understanding: the Sherman Antitrust Act and any further bills/amendments aren't exactly explicit on what it means to be "anticompetitive" because it depends on the circumstances, and the writers wanted to allow the definition to adapt to changing circumstances. Regardless of if they buy them all at once, or buy and shutting them down serially, it's still arguably "anticompetitive". It's ultimately up to the courts to decide (if the FTC presses charges).
Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by dzhiurgis on Sunday December 19, 2021 @04:53AM (#29612666)
Sell consumers guns at silly prices, but only works if you hold it correctly...
Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by pgwhalen on Friday December 17, 2021 @05:08PM (#29598962)
> Snapchat's valuation doesn't give them buying power

This isn't true in practice. Sure, company stock is not as great as the almighty US dollar, but can be used to purchase other companies, and its valuation directly affects how much cash the company can raise.

Re:Worker pay isn’t keeping up with inflation by katbyte on Friday December 17, 2021 @01:00PM (#29595760)
as long as there is a market for guns another company will just step into its place. Much like as long as there is a market for drugs new dealers step up fast as you can arrest them.