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Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by ghaff on Thursday December 16, 2021 @04:11PM (#29583971)
>social security numbers have been used instead

Historically that was sort of the case. I'd argue today that we mostly rely on state-issued IDs (especially but not necessarily driver's licenses) which are now overlaid with RealID requirements.

As a practical matter it's probably indistinguishable from what a federally-issued ID would be and I'm mostly content with not adding any more layers of identity verification than are really necessary. I'd probably oppose a push for a broadly required federal ID--although I have a passport (and a global entry card).

Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by OrsonSmelles on Thursday December 16, 2021 @07:06PM (#29585811)
>RealID requirements

This doesn't invalidate your point, but man it irritates me how many states have chosen to retain a noncompliant ID tier in order to avoid eating costs or raising fees. At least my state offers a full EDL so there's some added value, but it's absurd that the 'default' local ID isn't adequate for domestic air travel.

Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by ghaff on Thursday December 16, 2021 @08:48PM (#29586749)
There are non-trivial documentation requirements for RealID though. I had to go back in a second time. If someone has no need to fly it’s probably reasonable to offer them a lower bar.
Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by ahazred8ta on Friday December 17, 2021 @02:55AM (#29589186)
There's a surprising number of people who do not possess a birth certificate document. Their parents lost it, it got thrown out during an eviction, etc, etc. I've witnessed people at DMV stations who brought in their original birth certificates, but the embossed notary stamp had flattened over the years. It takes time and money to get a replacement. If the non-enhanced IDs didn't exist, these people couldn't get a state id card.
Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by ghaff on Friday December 17, 2021 @09:45AM (#29592819)
I have a passport so it's sort of academic, but I'm not sure if I could lay my hands on my birth certificate. I'd certainly have to look through some file cabinets to see if I could find it and who knows if it's an original or not.

For people without a passport, it's extremely easy to have lost a birth certificate at some point over the years. And I honestly have no idea how easy or hard getting a new one issued is from some potentially far away city or town.

Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by masonic on Friday December 17, 2021 @03:20AM (#29589383)
>it irritates me how many states have chosen to retain a noncompliant ID tier in order to avoid eating costs or raising fees

That's not why. States like California have dragged their feet for a decade with RealID compliance because they want to keep IDs for people in the US illegally indistinguishable from those for citizens, permanent residents, and others here legally.

Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by PeterisP on Friday December 17, 2021 @12:23PM (#29595219)
That's interesting, I can imagine why certain groups would want that but not really why the state itself would want it; and if they would, why can't they just explicitly pass a law granting those people whatever rights they want to grant.

Can you elaborate on this for us non-USA people?

Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday December 16, 2021 @05:33PM (#29584909)
Some states allow use of SSNs for drivers license numbers.
Re:NY Man Pleads Guilty in $20M SIM Swap Theft by ghaff on Thursday December 16, 2021 @08:45PM (#29586719)
It’s generally decreased over time though.