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Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by jeffalbertson on Thursday December 16, 2021 @01:17PM (#29581673)
you're not alone. I probably work the same amount as you. I ship stuff the org feels customers love, I get promotions, and get paid well. I could grind so much more but I like to spend my day in other ways. I like to read the news in the morning, clock out at 5 etc.

We have the ability to "work" this little and still be valuable because writing code has a very high barrier to entry. That 5-10 hrs of work took years of learning.

Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by sethammons on Thursday December 16, 2021 @01:36PM (#29581960)
A man approached a street artist making amazing paintings and asked for one. About 2 minutes later, the artwork completed, and the artist asked for the fee. The man balked at the price. "What!? This only took a couple of minutes!" "No," replied the artist, "this took me my whole life."
Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by CSSer on Thursday December 16, 2021 @02:07PM (#29582401)
Also see the parable of the plumber and the water heater: http://www.readersadvice.com/mmeade/musings/plumber.html
Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by willcipriano on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:21PM (#29583363)
A real life version of that, that is closer to software dev in my opinon.

I knew a plumber who was called out on Christmas Eve to deal with a clogged toilet. He arrives at the place and it's a beautiful mansion, full of well dressed guests eating wine and cheese. He goes into the bathroom and begins to resolve the issue when the homeowner comes over to dispute his price, "$500 for 15 minutes of work, how can you justify that?", the plumber reaches into the toilet grabs a handful of the contents and squeezes them between his fingers "Because I am willing to do this". The homeowner ran away disgusted, his bill was paid in full.

Writing software for bureaucratic organizations loaded with non-technical management sucks. We get paid what we do because nobody else wants to do it.

Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by garmaine on Thursday December 16, 2021 @01:23PM (#29581758)
> I ship stuff

This is the key point, I think, and the only thing that matters. Does OP ship stuff too? If so, he's got imposter syndrome.