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Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about by BurningFrog on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @08:45PM (#29561010)
I called it "the sane version of Conservatism". There are many others. Political scientists probably have a more specific name for mine. I should learn that some day.

Yeah, many people with very different ideas call themselves conservatives.

> I've never known conservatism to be anything except opposition to change as that's the most conservative thing you can generally do: nothing.

Have you never known conservatives wanting to lower taxes, deregulate the economy, and decentralize decision making?

Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about by GhettoComputers on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @09:08PM (#29561177)
>Have you never known conservatives wanting to lower taxes, deregulate the economy, and decentralize decision making?

I know its not conservative or liberal, it depends how you look at it. Deregulation of markets was seen as liberal at one time, devolution is pretty well supported except by some that support strong central government control, and lower taxes is often seen as American conservative, instead of offering services that they skim, or taxing you and giving you back more money (lol) they just won't take it in the first place. Milton Friedman's negative income tax is a beautiful way to help the poor without sudden cutoffs for when they try to become wealthier too.

I would say that these labels aren't as useful as top down control (big government, tell people what to do) or bottom up control (power to the people, let them do as they want to). Both can be useful for different reasons. The ozone hole and banning freon was top down but the tragedy of the common would mean it would never get fixed. The federal government also shouldn't raid dispensaries and prevent weed smoking.

Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about by mensetmanusman on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:40PM (#29562178)
Most conservatives I know want to decentralize decision making, lower taxes, and deregulate the economy.
Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about by monodeldiablo on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:56AM (#29563180)
Except as regards gay or abortion rights, military funding, and drug policy. Right?

I know that's the case for every conservative I know, at least. They stand for those values in the abstract, as an ostensibly philosophy to undergird their politics... But oppose those values in practice.

Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about by BurningFrog on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:24PM (#29568913)
Under the current Roe v Wade regime, abortion law is centralized to 9 judges on the Supreme Court.

Republicans want to decentralize this to democratic decisions in each state.

Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about by AvesMerit on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @12:15AM (#29634153)
Why not decentralize this democratic decision further - let individuals choose whether they're pro-choice or pro-life?