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Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by Spivak on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:04PM (#29554937)
Yeah, a highly infectious vaccine resistant strain spreading while the world opens up and people rely on the waning strength of their first two shots is pretty much a recipe for year three of this crap.
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by fullshark on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:21PM (#29555186)
At this point I'm expecting this crap to be a thing until we have a winter of excess deaths at or below Pre-Covid levels. Once that is observed I think people will finally move on. It sounds like this is still going to result in deaths, so I am now expecting year three of this crap.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-deat...

I think eventually that winter will come, but the process will be gradual and vaccines/antiviral treatments will only be able to accomplish so much in terms of mitigation.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by sokoloff on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:58PM (#29555781)
At some point, it seems like you have to weigh the lifetime risk of dying from COVID against the loss of life enjoyment and decide “We shouldn’t subject ourselves to another 1.25% of our lifetime of this (whatever “this” is) to lower the fatality rate from Y to X.” (If you’re lowering from 5% to 1%, that trade makes sense for even severe social restrictions. If you’re lowering it from 0.5% to 0.4%, that trade makes no sense for anything beyond the very mildest of restrictions.)
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by AlexandrB on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:17PM (#29556041)
I think it's better to consider some kind of "casualty rate" that includes long COVID, rather than just the "fatality rate". At the moment it's possible some people may never fully recover full function after contracting COVID even though they survive.
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by moistly on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:57PM (#29557600)
The people who never fully recover are orders of magnitude more expensive than the dead. The latter are a one-time cost in lost productivity and care expenses; the former are an on-going cost. Since we, collectively, are the ones who are going to pay via taxation, we should IMO be a hell of a lot more concerned about COVID’s long-term consequences.
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:10PM (#29556835)
While I don't think you're wrong, in practice I think most people use fatality rates as a proxy that kinda implicitly includes non-fatal harms. How often do people talk about heart disease or obesity in terms of "casualty rates"?
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by fullshark on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:52PM (#29556595)
Beyond personal choice, in America statewise regulations and urban v. rural differences in mitigation techniques may mean citizens vote with their feet and gov'ts respond to properly shore up tax bases.

In any case I'm no longer thinking this has a clear end date, just a gradual fade into memory, the exact length of time it takes undefined/unclear.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by ZephyrBlu on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:51PM (#29556566)
People (Or at least governments), seem unwilling to take that kind of stance.
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by spookthesunset on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:59PM (#29556702)
> recipe for year three of this crap

Only in places that continue to consider covid the only problem society should focus on. It might be hard for some to imagine but we cannot continue to put the world on hold for exactly one specific form of illness.

For one thing, we've created a pandemic of untreated mental illness. All these people I see walking their dogs at night on a rainy day alone on the street wearing a mask with foggy glasses are gonna have a hard time getting over this... All the people who haven't left their house in two years are gonna need some help. People have lost their minds and it is gonna take a while to heal.