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Re:The web is fucked by flohofwoe on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:12AM (#29553192)
Quite simple, it's a real problem but without a realistic solution short of burning everything to the ground. Once the bean counters had discovered and invaded the paradise there was no way to kick them out again. Maybe the only solution is to build a new paradise and hope that it never gains enough traction to attract the vultures.
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Re:The web is fucked by wongarsu on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:33AM (#29553501)
I think that's a large part of the appeal of overlay networks like Tor, GNUnet, I2P, IPFS, etc. All of them are niche and not supported by any notable ad networks, many of them heavily discourage JavaScript and tracking, and with the networks often being either slow or high latency (or both) websites are forced to be fairly lean.
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Re:The web is fucked by shadowgovt on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:31AM (#29553477)
The cool thing is that you can do that on the existing system.

Make a new service. Make it username / password authenticated. Don't give out the usernames and passwords to everyone that comes in. Have some kind of gating function (BBS's were all about who you knew, somethingawful.com made you pay twenty bucks one time, some old systems were gated on something no more complex than single-administrator bandwidth).

You won't grow at a rate that any VC will care about, but that kind of capitalism-feeding growth isn't your goal if you're trying to cultivate a "web 1.0 experience:" web 1.0 didn't support most people's capitalist ventures.

What you may find (what I've found participating in these experiments) is that the resulting space is a whole lot quieter than the rest of the web. And if you're replicating the web 1.0 experience, that's the goal.

The site administrator will also spend a lot more time glad-handing individual users who have individual issues. That's fine; if you're going for a web 1.0 experience, authentication management isn't automated beyond a few simple config scripts.

And if that's what a person wants, nothing about the modern web stops them from doing it, except that very few people will care they're doing it because (unlike the web 1.0 days) there are alternatives that accept all comers with functionally infinite capacity now.

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