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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by gruez on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @10:42AM (#29552773)
Are corporations emitting carbon for fun, or are they doing it at the behest of "ordinary citizens"?
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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by hatware on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:11AM (#29553175)
Neither.

I believe they are doing it to make money. Which is perfectly alright.

Isn't the government supposed to _evaluate_ and _regulate_ the market in order to account for the externalities created by X, Y, and Z corporations? If they are not doing this, what do we do? Cause we've been voting the same cronies in cycle after cycle, with the same result.

What is the definition of insanity? Our reality.

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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by CameronNemo on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:39PM (#29555441)
Maybe the fact that two of the largest coal exporting states have the smallest populations and largest proportional influences in the Senate has something to do why voting isn't working. The game is rigged.
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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by gruez on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:58PM (#29559299)
>Maybe the fact that two of the largest coal exporting states have the smallest populations and largest proportional influences in the Senate

Wyoming and Vermont are the largest coal exporting states? Based on https://www.statista.com/statistics/380664/leading-us-states..., it looks like the top 5 coal exporting states are ranked 39, 24, 5, 6, and 12 in terms of population.

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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by CameronNemo on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:46PM (#29560442)
https://www.mining-technology.com/features/five-largest-coal...

This has Wyoming and WV as the biggest producers. Could differ from exports, but in retrospect production is probably more important. Those states are quite small. Vermont is too. Yet they have 6 senators between them.

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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by pessimizer on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:19PM (#29554244)
X, Y, and Z corporations are the ones that finance those cronies. Good luck running against them without either being completely ignored or painted as an anti-semitic child molester by any media that could reach more than 100 voters.
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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by acuozzo on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:51AM (#29553850)
The issue is that, in many cases, corporations create the problems that their products solve.

Stroads, for instance, only came about after a ton of corporate spending on propaganda and lobbying to increase demand for automobiles.

If you contaminate the water supply of a city in order to create demand for your water purification product, then is the resulting consumer demand your fault or theirs?

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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by gfxgirl on Thursday December 16, 2021 @06:08AM (#29577089)
Most people I know want a house in the suburbs. Their own land. A place for pets, a garage for cars, no shared walls so they can watch tv loud or play things like rockband (old reference but clearly not something most people can play in an apartment). they like their suburban neighborhoods where they get to know their neighbors and their kids can play with other kids in their front yard, etc....

no need for evil corps for this lifestyle to be appealing to lots of people

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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by postsantum on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @10:54AM (#29552915)
Behest of ordinary citizens is easily swayed by media, which are owned by corporations. Enjoy your nuclear hysteria while important people keep visiting Climate Change Conferences in their private jets
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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by user-the-name on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:01AM (#29553034)
They are doing it because it's cheap and legal. Nobody is asking corporations to do it. We are allowing them to get away with it.

We need to stop allowing it.

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Re:Three loud climate warning signals by camgunz on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @11:24AM (#29553357)
They actively corrupt democratic governments and disseminate misinformation in order to keep making money by destroying the planet. Exxon infamously supports cap and trade because they know it's politically non-viable [1]. Confident no consumer is asking them to do this.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1Yg6XejyE

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