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Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by space_rock on Sunday December 12, 2021 @06:38PM (#29534864)
0 evidence? I think you mean endlessly endlessly evidence for fake decentralisation

https://twitter.com/dydxprotocol/status/1468293558360805381

Here is a "decentralised" exchange going down with aws

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by wegwerfbenutzer on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:16PM (#29535146)
Please make the effort to understand the difference between frontend and backend.

The nice thing about the decentralised exchanges such as Uniswap or -dydx- is that you do not need their websites/ frontends because their smart contracts/ backend is available on the blockchain. Anybody can make a website that interacts with any smart contracts on the blockchain. There are even aggregator websites (e.g. https://app.defisaver.com/).

Do you know any website that aggregates the services of any TradFi banks and brokers?

Edit: Actually dydx is layer 2 now: https://dydx.exchange/blog/layer-1-wind-down

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by space_rock on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:23PM (#29535186)
Nice condescending tone you got going

Backend/frontend? I thought this was a decentralized network. There should just be users with nodes. Backends point to clear points of failure from a disingenuous misleading project

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by diveanon on Sunday December 12, 2021 @11:20PM (#29536558)
If you made even a passing attempt at understanding this space you would see how wrong you are.

Anyone can interact with a contract directly, you don't need any FE or BE at all.

I can't speak to the specifics of dydx since I am not a user and haven't done my due diligence on them, but with every other dex I have ever interacted with it is entirely possible to use their service entirely from the contract interface.

Its usually the first thing I do to ensure that I can access my funds without any external dependencies.

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by space_rock on Sunday December 12, 2021 @11:55PM (#29536767)
How can I make a passing attempt to understand the space when I've already been teaching decentralised tech for 6 years
Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by diveanon on Monday December 13, 2021 @03:56PM (#29544532)
Then as an educator you are doing your students a disservice and allowing your personal bias to impact their future.
Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by space_rock on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:01AM (#29536803)
You are just contradicting the parents comments while trying to claim they aren't being misleading. The exchange when down with aws and they were lying about being decentralised to sell tokens
Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by 0x64 on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:09PM (#29535088)
dYdX is a layer-2 zk-rollup-based exchange that is definitely not decentralized in the sense that e.g. Uniswap is on layer-1. It still, however, inherits the security guarantees of L1 despite not being directly intractable with from L1.
Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by space_rock on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:19PM (#29535162)
I already know they aren't decentralised

And yet they claim right on the front page "Decentralized"

Also L1 exchanges on Ethereum are arguably not decentralised. They delegate power to miners as a shortcut

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by whoisninja on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:48PM (#29535340)
even your L1 is 70% hosted nodes , why not just run an api on a trusted company's servers that verifies your balances using pub/priv keys and signatures

you guys are up for rude awakening when this rube goldberg machine bricks

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by diveanon on Sunday December 12, 2021 @11:22PM (#29536566)
its been over a decade now.

would like to point out that HN was also saying BTC was over valued at $1k.

Didn't listen to you guys then, not going to now either.

Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by space_rock on Sunday December 12, 2021 @11:58PM (#29536784)
What does this have to do with bitcoin? Their claims don't relate to bitcoin
Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by whoisninja on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:17AM (#29536884)
exactly
Re:Crypto Theses for 2022 [pdf] by whoisninja on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:16AM (#29536876)
Bitcoin is decentralized, 13,000 nodes - mostly residiential nodes, not hosted.

You're assuming too much.