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Re:This website has 81% battery power remaining by mro_name on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:46PM (#29533440)
do you know the matrix movie quote "but there is no spoon" – maybe the framework you look for is vanilla CSS. Write sensible markup to hold your content (almost no divs), CSS it and be good. Sounds that feasible?
Re:This website has 81% battery power remaining by throwaway11602 on Sunday December 12, 2021 @04:19PM (#29533719)
> ... vanilla CSS... Sounds that feasible?

Vanilla CSS is the other end of the spectrum, but the problem is there is apparently nothing between hand-crafted CSS and a full front-end framework. People, like me, who are not good at design will choose the convenience of the latter over going through the tedium of the former, even if we don't really want to.

Re:This website has 81% battery power remaining by mro_name on Sunday December 12, 2021 @04:27PM (#29533795)
You won't be a sculptor if you avoid the chisel. If in rome, do as the romans do. If you want to swim, you'll get wet.

There is no design in/for the web without html+css, is there?

Edit: by removing 3rd parties from your project you remove a lot of overhead and current and future risk. But be warned: Maybe your company sells exactly that for a good margin and you ruin the business model.

Re:This website has 81% battery power remaining by squeaky-clean on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:40PM (#29535288)
We don't want to sculptors. We have other projects that just happen to require a sculpture as part of finishing them.

> There is no design in/for the web without html+css, is there?

Only as much as there's no programming without assembly language.

Re:This website has 81% battery power remaining by mro_name on Monday December 13, 2021 @02:20AM (#29537501)
> We don't want to sculptors.

It is really sad that you are forced to do things that you believe you are not capable of doing and refuse to do.

Re:This website has 81% battery power remaining by squeaky-clean on Monday December 20, 2021 @12:10PM (#29627177)
It's not that I don't believe I'm capable of it. I do not want to do it. I'm happy to not have to do it.

When did I ever say I was not capable of doing it? It's really sad the way you push your mindset on others.