Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated?

Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by StevePerkins on Sunday December 12, 2021 @10:53AM (#29530581)

I don't think I have ever witnessed a comment on Reddit, prefixed with "Unpopular opinion:", that did not actually contain a VERY popular opinion, and therefore rocket to the top of the thread thanks to reverse psychology upvotes.

It's depressing to watch this trope start to bleed over into HN.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by zamadatix on Sunday December 12, 2021 @12:01PM (#29531240)

Problems with the prefix aside (I'm not a fan either) Reddit does it's best to show you popular comments. If you go looking in the -10 through 10 range on relevant threads you'll have a decent chance of spotting them. Not "controversial", not "top" (or bottom of "top"), not "hot", just the 95% of comments that aren't driving engagement numbers.

After all it's neither going to be popular because it's a popular sentiment nor is it particularly likely to be something interesting/relevant to get upvotes on merit. It's just going to be an unpopular opinion that gets ignored.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by chrisco255 on Sunday December 12, 2021 @12:05PM (#29531293)

Well, it's at least a controversial opinion even if it also maintains popularity. People seem to rag on Electron apps all the time on HN due to their inefficient usage of computing resources. However, they are an optimal use of developer resources, which are far more constrained for the average project.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by yesenadam on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:04PM (#29533082)

Also the phrase seems close to breaking the guideline against commenting about the voting on comments, and is a boring meta-comment that just adds noise. It seems like putting up a preemptive umbrella.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by ajkjk on Monday December 13, 2021 @01:24AM (#29537242)

Well.. people around here love to hate on Electron so I can understand thinking it's an unpopular take.

But seriously Electron is so many times better than writing native apps .. or even trying to find the documentation for how to do _one single thing_ in a native app the way you want to.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by cosmotic on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:12PM (#29533142)

You're taking about wrapping a boilerplate ridden platform in another boilerplate ridden platform where someone else wrote either boilerplate. You're talking about a browser without window dressing. That's not making an app nor eliminating any boilerplate.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by cosmotic on Sunday December 12, 2021 @03:30PM (#29533296)

I'll also add that you lose most of the benefits of a native app and most of the benefits of a web app.

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Re:Ask HN: Why is building Windows apps so complicated? by zython on Sunday December 12, 2021 @12:03PM (#29531256)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

You are less likely to read the truly unpopular opinions but yes I agree, seems like a cheap way to gain popularity.

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