A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa Claus (2018)

Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by lanevorockz on Sunday December 12, 2021 @05:05AM (#29528381)

Absolutely, I find this claim of "created santa" is so silly that it sounds like revisionist history. Kazakhstan, Lithuania and other regions have "Santa" traditions that go back over a hundred years and it is mostly indistinguishable than the "propaganda" version.

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by kgran on Sunday December 12, 2021 @05:35AM (#29528515)

Almost all Kazakhs are Sunni Muslims. If you've meant Christian populations like Russians, then I would be interested to see what's special about Russian Kazakhstani's Santa traditions.

I'd also like to see a hundred or more years old Lithuanian Santa version similar to the Unionist one.

This is not to dismiss your claim that this might be revisionist (I'm not sure), but your examples on Kazakhstan and Lithuania lack evidence.

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by mpol on Sunday December 12, 2021 @06:01AM (#29528631)

Not an answer, mostly a hint :) But could it be that the folklore of Odin / Wodan came there through the Vikings? The Dutch Sinterklaas is partly based on the Wild Hunt of Odin. Odin might have inspired more civilisations with the same concept.

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by vmception on Sunday December 12, 2021 @12:25PM (#29531482)

There are some people that are susceptible to the idea of new information being more canonical than the prior information they were initially exposed to, as opposed to merely an alternate amongst many alternates.

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by MomoXenosaga on Sunday December 12, 2021 @06:05AM (#29528648)

The Netherlands has something called "Sinterklaas". But I think celebrating children and giving presents to them is something that goes back to the very origin of mankind and can be found all over the world.

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by genewitch on Sunday December 12, 2021 @06:40AM (#29528794)

Sinterklass is just how the Dutch pronounce Saint Nicolas.

Americans bastardized it to Santa Claus. As we do.

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by snemvalts on Sunday December 12, 2021 @05:37AM (#29528517)

Didn't you know? All culture of the world revolves around the US /s

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Re:A Civil War cartoonist created the modern image of Santa ... by treeman79 on Sunday December 12, 2021 @10:10AM (#29530202)

Let’s not forget the fine German tradition of the Christmas pickle.

That no one in Germany knows about… https://youtu.be/Sb0qu_RjQ6I

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