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Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by helfire on Saturday December 11, 2021 @11:56AM (#29522296)
Creator here. I wanted to give people the ability to have the ability to print them out for personal use or buy from a seller. Early in the project someone attempted to commercially take it over so I chose this licenses. Is it perfect? no. You can of course design your own, but mine are provided under that license. See some projects like Elastic, Sentry, etc have run into similar licensing issues when trying to provide something to the community for free.
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by snvzz on Saturday December 11, 2021 @01:08PM (#29522907)
I take no issue with you choosing whatever license you want. It's your own work, after all.

My dissatisfaction is only with the Open Hardware claim, present and prominent in what I assume is your website[0]. It has a definition[1], and your choice of license does not meet it.

I do not wish for the meaning of Open Hardware to be diluted, thus the comment.

[0]: https://scsi.blue/

[1]: https://www.oshwa.org/definition/

Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by polpo on Saturday December 11, 2021 @01:59PM (#29523307)
“Open hardware” is a pretty generic term and OSHWA doesn’t have a monopoly over how people use it.
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by opan on Saturday December 11, 2021 @03:04PM (#29523787)
This same weak argument gets used against "open source", and while I strongly prefer "free software", I still think it's ridiculous how much people make this claim. Get your own terms. Stop trying to make the world a worse place for those who care about freedom, please.
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by bogantech on Saturday December 11, 2021 @03:30PM (#29524002)
Who is it making the world worse for besides the leeches who take it and sell it?
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by snvzz on Saturday December 11, 2021 @03:40PM (#29524083)
Making PCBs, soldering components, flashing roms, testing, selling and shipping hardware takes effort. This is true regardless of Open Hardware.

I therefore do not see anything wrong with selling Open Hardware.

As everybody can do this, the hardware itself is commoditized, and society at large does benefit.

Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by bogantech on Saturday December 11, 2021 @04:22PM (#29524410)
> Making PCBs, soldering components, flashing roms, testing, selling and shipping hardware takes effort. This is true regardless of Open Hardware.

It's a lot easier to upload some zip files to JLCPCB, have them assemble it and then sell them on eBay for 4x the cost than it is to do the initial design.

It seems rare to get any contributions back to hw projects (either in pull requests etc or donations) so it's unsurprising when I see talented people give up or go with non commercial licenses.

The usefulness I find in open source projects is the ability to learn, fix things etc

Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by rasz on Saturday December 11, 2021 @04:55PM (#29524628)
>It's a lot easier to upload some zip files to JLCPCB, have them assemble it and then sell them on eBay for 4x the cost than it is to do the initial design.

but the author of BlueSCSI didnt do that initial design

"BlueSCSI created by erichelgeson is a fork of ArdSCSino-stm32" https://github.com/erichelgeson/BlueSCSI

Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by helfire on Saturday December 11, 2021 @11:14PM (#29527073)
I did do the initial design of this hardware. The ArdSCSino just mapped pins from the bluepill to a 50 pin header.
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by rasz on Sunday December 12, 2021 @08:23AM (#29529416)
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by helfire on Sunday December 12, 2021 @10:30AM (#29530359)
Ok. You may want to compare versions then. It seem you're very interested in it.
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by helfire on Saturday December 11, 2021 @11:17PM (#29527090)
> It seems rare to get any contributions back to hw projects (either in pull requests etc or donations) so it's unsurprising when I see talented people give up or go with non commercial licenses.

This is 100% true. Coming from a software side I was surprised that on the embedded and hardware side everyone just forks. I did try to contact the original arscsino project to contribute back but at the time it was idle and I got no response.

Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by helfire on Saturday December 11, 2021 @03:58PM (#29524238)
I've never heard of OSHWA. I agree with the other reply that Open Hardware seems to be a pretty generic phrase.
Re:BlueSCSI – Open, Low Cost, DIY SCSI to SD Device – Tinker... by phoronixrly on Saturday December 11, 2021 @12:20PM (#29522519)
Hello,

Thank you for distributing the designs. The choice of license is completely yours to make.

That is what the comment above should have said instead of complaining.