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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by andbberger on Thursday December 09, 2021 @08:21PM (#29505360)
it's not people are anti-car as much as they are pro-human. the majority of people (in the states) would not be car people if they had alternatives. stroads are hostile to anyone not in a car. making pedestrians hit a beg button to cross street is just reinforcing that they are trespassing on land that is not for them.
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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by throw0101a on Thursday December 09, 2021 @09:03PM (#29505627)
I once ran across the observation that the amount 'jay walking' that occurs on a street is an indication of how much that street is pedestrian-friendly. More criss-crossing means people feel safer just moseying over to the other side.
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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by jimmaswell on Thursday December 09, 2021 @08:30PM (#29505415)
They have right of way regardless but the flashing sign increases safety.

Are turn signals a "beg button"?

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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by andbberger on Thursday December 09, 2021 @08:38PM (#29505471)
I dare you to cross a stroad without waiting for the pedestrian phase.

Turn signals are not beg buttons.

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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by calt on Thursday December 09, 2021 @08:25PM (#29505385)
> making pedestrians hit a beg button to cross street is just reinforcing that they are trespassing on land that is not for them.

I love this quote.

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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by andbberger on Friday December 10, 2021 @12:20AM (#29506684)
no one is claiming education is needed, as much as changing the urban fabric to what it is in most of the developed world. nor one is saying suburbs should stop existing. some people want to live on a farm in the countryside, fine.

having a big apartment and living in a walkable area are not mutually exclusive things.

bike infra should indeed be separated from cars and pedestrians.

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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by josephcsible on Friday December 10, 2021 @01:33AM (#29507032)
> nor one is saying suburbs should stop existing.

Isn't that one of Strong Towns' major beliefs?

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Re:How do you fix a stroad? by andbberger on Friday December 10, 2021 @01:36AM (#29507042)
literally no one is doing that
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