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Re:Player of Games by remram on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @09:26AM (#29485052)
They could still be honest that it's Stockfish 8, not the Stockfish everyone has. Your product having genuine value does not excuse lying about that value.
Re:Player of Games by Skyy93 on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @10:00AM (#29485502)
I observed this kind of behavior in many papers nowadays. This extremely painful for research, because some better candidates could be overseen and FAANG publishs a majority in the ML-paper section. Its a mess.
Re:Player of Games by ShamelessC on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @10:01AM (#29485527)
They were? They say they use Stockfish 8 the very first time they mention it.
Re:Player of Games by remram on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @01:01PM (#29488101)
First time they mention it is page 10:

> one of the strongest and most widely-used programs is Stockfish [81].

Here's the citation, note the date:

> [81] The Stockfish Development Team. Stockfish: Open source chess engine, 2021. https://stockfishchess.org/.

They mention the version number only once, further down, and don't point out that it's out of date since February 2018. All other 11 mentions of it don't have the version number, like in that sentence:

> In Chess, PoG(60000,10) is stronger than Stockfish using 4 threads and one second of search time.

Re:Player of Games by hesperiidae on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @01:29PM (#29488474)
>First time they mention it is page 10:

Yeah, so it is! I guess I ran into the same weirdness as ShamelessC, since when I first Ctrl-F:ed the PDF, hit 1/11 was on page 11. Now that I try my damndest to reproduce it, I get 12 hits and the first is that one on page 10.

Re:Player of Games by hesperiidae on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @12:20PM (#29487533)
Yup, "In chess, we evaluated PoG against Stockfish 8, level 20 [81] and AlphaZero."