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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by charcircuit on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:25AM (#29483496)
Matrix is terrible for hosting communities compared to Matrix. Matrix is only good if you are okay having a single group chat for everyone to put everything into. A single group chat does not scale, so it's better to use a platform like Discord.
Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by Macha on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:09AM (#29483803)
Matrix added spaces as a grouping of channels akin to a discord server back in september, so this problem is now solved.
Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by charcircuit on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @10:59AM (#29486324)
A simple directory of rooms that you can join is still very far away from the way Discord works. Matrix is still focused around users joining rooms which where Discord is focused around users joining servers.

At least in the mobile app I didn't even know this existed. To find this directory of rooms you need to open up the spaces drawer. The you need to open a menu for the space by clicking on a stack of three vertical dots. I thought this would have things like settings or something in it, but no this is the way to navigate to important information. Then you need to click on explore rooms. You now can see a list of rooms you can join. You can now join a room with a tap. Then you have to open the room with a tap. This is extremely convoluted and hidden.

Meanwhile Discord doesn't need this whole process since you don't need to manually join rooms yourself.

Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by arm on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:08AM (#29483794)
Matrix recently added a feature called 'Spaces', which is analogous to a Discord 'server':

https://element.io/blog/spaces-blast-out-of-beta/

Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by charcircuit on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @10:56AM (#29486282)
Spaces is just a directory of text rooms. Users don't just join every single room and rooms are independent from each other instead of having a single roles system shared between the whole server. In this model having an announcements channel wouldn't work since there will be people who didn't join the channel. Similarly people might not want to join a rules channel.
Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by kitkat_new on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @12:52PM (#29487997)
ATM people will see suggested rooms, auto joining is in the works.

However, don't see a problem. Why does it matter if they join each channel? you don't need to read a channel in Discord as well despite you are auto joined

Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by charcircuit on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @05:27PM (#29491377)
>Why does it matter if they join each channel?

Higher friction to visit other channels means that it will mean less people will visit other channels. I've been in a Nix / NixOS room for a while and I had no clue I was in a space and that space had other rooms until you commented that it existed. I never had this issue with discord. It was obvious there were other channels the first time I used it.

Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by kitkat_new on Friday December 10, 2021 @07:03AM (#29508915)
> I've been in a Nix / NixOS room for a while and I had no clue I was in a space and that space had other rooms until you commented that it existed.

sounds like a temporary issue though: first only rooms existed, now Spaces exist, but the room directory still exposes rooms instead of Spaces