I’m personally running 3 24” external monitors, and I’m fairly sure that I’d have a viewing angle issue had my panels been TN.

High end for 60Hz these days is OLED, IPS is the de-facto standard, and TN or VA aren’t worth buying.

The only external hiDPI displays that exist are the Apple Pro XDR (only works on macOS), and the Dell UP3218K (doesn't work on macOS).

Of course the iMac is hiDPI, but it's not an external display.

It's bewildering how manufacturers keep pushing for this low resolution 4k crap 10 years (!!!!) after hiDPI displays first appeared in laptops.

Reference: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=monlcd19wide&xf=12018_200

It was updated in 2019 as the 27MD5KL-B, specifically designed for Macs:

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27md5kl-b-5k-uhd-led-monit...

I saw it listed on apple.com two months ago, but it was a month+ back-ordered. I ended up buying one via eBay (for my Mac Mini M1).

EDIT: it's still available on apple.com: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUB2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k...

And also unfortunately, the build quality is very, very bad.

But yes, better get that one while you still can! But be warned, my friend recently got one, and had to go through about 10 retailers until he found one that could actually sell him one. Many retailers put these on their websites in the hope that LG will be able to deliver stock, but LG can't deliver stock.

Color-wise, the LG is fantastic - and I was very skeptical about getting it. The old one wasn't very good when I compared it side by side with an iMac Pro (Apple Store, Union Street, SF). I'm not sure if they changed the screen quality, but it seems on par, if not better than my old Cinema Display.

EDIT: yeah, my first purchase was via Amazon as "Used - Like New", which turned out to be a 2 year old model that couldn't talk to the Mac. I found a new one at a great price via eBay which works great, but the manual was in Cyrillic...

I think the early models had some problems. I've got the later version and it is rock solid.

We have a definition, it's ppi, and you need at least 220ppi.

> Apple uses 1440p/1600p on laptop screens.

No, it doesn't.

The current 14'' screen is 3024x1964 and the current 16 inch is 3456x2234 (both 254ppi).

The previous generation used about 220ppi displays.

Retina display: 13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology; 2560-by-1600 native resolution

If 1600p on 13" is not Retina you need to argue this with Apple instead.

It's 226ppi display. Why would it not be a retina display?

1920x1080: 1080p

2560x1440: 1440p

2560x1600: ...

EDIT: if you're going to edit your comment once called out on talking nonsense, at least have the decency to note it.

5k 27" is HiDPI, because it 2x the old 1440 screens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display#Rationale

27 inch 1440p at 100% scaling in Windows or MacOS is what most would be consider appropriate sizing for UI elements and text by default, so in order to achieve high dpi you need a 5k monitor, like the LG UltraFine or the 27 inch iMac.

I bought 3 4K 27” LG ups ones, one the corners blew out (massive bleed til you can’t see the pixels for the white shining through), one is going thr same way and only the newest shows no sign of it (yet).

Going Samsung next time since LG make panels for everyone and I simply don’t trust them now.

I understand that not everybody understands hiDPI displays, but it really grinds me gears to see low-resolution displays advertised as solutions to people who do understand hiDPI.

To me, 163ppi looks more similar to how old ~100ppi displays looked that to my 224ppi iMac.

In fact, once you see these new 280dpi displays, even 5k@27'' barely makes the cut. I wish it were sharper.

Here's Apple's range of Retina displays:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display#Models

The DPI difference between highest (iPhone 12) and lowest (Pro Display XDR) is 2.2x. The angular resolution difference at typical viewing distance between those two screens is 1.1x. Clearly the angular resolution at typical viewing distance is a much better definition of what's good enough resolution than the DPI.

But I'm glad we got over the idea that 220dpi is a magical number. Otherwise not even the iMac or the Apple Pro XDR displays counted as HiDPI.