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Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by flyinglizard on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:34PM (#29452930)
No, people don’t just “move across borders if they need to”. This is what militaries are for, to enforce sovereignty. Saying that is impossible is undermining the notion of statehood.
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by mrkurt on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:36PM (#29452957)
There are 11 million people in the US who "moved across borders when they needed to". Is there a country people want to migrate to that successfully keeps them out?
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by flyinglizard on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:41PM (#29453018)
This is a fraction of the actual population which would happily move to the US but is kept away by immigration controls. 11 million on a population of 330 million is 3%.
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by indodima on Sunday December 05, 2021 @05:57PM (#29454217)
You think the whole population of Mex wants to "happily move" into gringolandia? Naive and arrogant at the same time.
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by bryanrasmussen on Monday December 06, 2021 @02:26AM (#29457131)
I mean there are people from all around the world who would like to move to the U.S, I guess because their situations in their home countries suck enough to warrant it or some cases because they are personally ambitious and the U.S is seen as the place to realize that ambition. Many of them are not allowed to move though because of immigration controls.
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by mrkurt on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:44PM (#29453045)
Are you saying it's impossible to keep 3% of the people out?
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by flyinglizard on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:47PM (#29453064)
It’s possible, just not worth the effort.
Re:Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out of Europe by ohCh6zos on Sunday December 05, 2021 @03:52PM (#29453126)
Efforts to keep them out are constantly being sabotaged from within, it's not exactly proof we couldn't.