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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @06:32AM (#29440224)
> you may take a break (I do), but it will be liek a half-hour break, at most, and most available chargers (if they are available, in Europe), will give you what? 10 miles extra in that time?

Depends on the charger and the car. Ionity's chargers are 350 kW:

https://ionity.eu/en/design-and-tech.html

And, for example, cars on Hyundai's E-GMP platform (currently Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, and Genesis GV60) can charge 10 to 80% in 18 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J46mG7I78Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqcqy29ZCc

The Kia EV6's WLTP range is 528km so 80% of that is 422km. If we say the real world highway range is more like 400km then 80% would be 320 km.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by dmitriid on Saturday December 04, 2021 @06:38AM (#29440240)
> Ionity's chargers are

And their availability is?

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @06:41AM (#29440251)
Excellent. And they're not the only DC fast charging provider. There's FastNed, EnBW, Allego, etc. Even Tesla has started to open their chargers to all makes (only 10 sites in the Netherlands so far).
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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by dmitriid on Saturday December 04, 2021 @08:19AM (#29440652)
Define "excellent". As in "available to anyone at anytime at short notice"?
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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:11AM (#29440918)
Nothing is available to anyone at anytime at short notice, except possibly disappointment.

Here are examples of some of the best charging stations in Europe and the UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2shbCwDYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoN4WCpuxHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yra3AsicSRY

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by dmitriid on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:34AM (#29441051)
> Nothing is available to anyone at anytime at short notice

Funny. When I drive a regular car, gas stations are available all the time, at short notice. With a throughput of possibly hundreds of cars an hour.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:42AM (#29441098)
Nope.

Fuel shortage: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/fuel-shortage-uk...

Fuel shortage: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59059093

Fuel shortage: https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/canadian-province-exten...

Fuel shortage: https://www.ibtimes.com/diesel-shortage-amid-soaring-prices-...

Things are tough all over in the real world.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by dmitriid on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:46AM (#29441129)
> Nope

Yup

> Fuel shortage

Ah yes. Extraordinary short-term events affecting only some regions vs. chronic shortage of available fast chargers pretty much everywhere.

Yup, same thing.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:49AM (#29441149)
> Extraordinary short-term events

You picked the conditions of the contest, son. You claimed "available to anyone at any time at short notice".

You were straight up wrong. Deal with it.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by dmitriid on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:56AM (#29441194)
It's not a contest, and I didn't pick conditions for it. This is called a reality.

This all started with a discussion of a long trip. The reality is that, at best, EVs require you to do very careful planning with potentially lengthy breaks regardless of "excellent coverage" and exuberant youtube ads of "best charging stations".

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @10:08AM (#29441275)
If your grand insight is that charging infrastructure is still being built out then that's no insight at all. New stations are going in daily.

Look, if you're too afraid to think about EVs now then the best advice is not to worry about it. Live in the happy tail as a late adopter. By then all the decisions will have been made for you and you won't have to think.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by dmitriid on Saturday December 04, 2021 @03:34PM (#29444058)
> Look, if you're too afraid to think about EVs

Ah yes. "Son", "deal with it", "afraid to think about EVs", a couple of Youtube vidoes. The grand arguments of a person who pretends they have any arguments.

No one is "afraid to think about EVs". Those who actually think about EVs see what they are, and all the problems they have right now. Good luck to early adopters, come back when you have more arguments than those listed above.

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Re:Bosch gives go-ahead for volume production of silicon car... by clouddrover on Saturday December 04, 2021 @05:46PM (#29445008)
But you plainly are afraid, kid. You've done nothing but argue dishonestly. You set a ridiculous standard that not even gas stations meet and you think you've discovered something. You haven't.

EVs are here now, they work, and they're getting better year by year. No amount of whining from you will change that.

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