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Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by tinus_hn on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:46AM (#29418583)
Imagine a world in which the vaccine does not exist. What would you do then?

That is the alternative.

Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by thedrbrian on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:52PM (#29421545)
Use my immune system, like people did for millions of years. Unfortunately everyone can’t but the vast majority will be fine after having covid and will have built up immunity.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by yladiz on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:47AM (#29418607)
We don't live in a world without the vaccine, so I don't see the argument.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by tinus_hn on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:56AM (#29418735)
A possible answer to your question of what we could do if we do not want to force people to get vaccinated is the same as what we could do if people could not be vaccinated.

You said it was your ‘genuine question’. So I’m not sure why you need to see the argument. It’s an answer to your question, not an argument.

Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by detaro on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:59AM (#29418794)
So basically lockdown for all, because restricting the rights of everybody is better than restricting the rights of some. Good luck convincing the courts that that's the minimal necessary restriction.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by tinus_hn on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:06PM (#29418937)
There are more options than ‘lockdown for all’, but yes, it would be one of the things you could do if vaccinations were not available.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by detaro on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:09PM (#29418981)
But vaccinations are available, so you likely can't do it legally.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by tinus_hn on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:13PM (#29419048)
That’s for the courts to decide. Is a lockdown not allowed because forcing people to vaccinate is an option? Or is forcing people to vaccinate not allowed because lockdown is an option?
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t... by detaro on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:22PM (#29419196)
Forcing people to vaccinate is not really a tool to control infections right now, and more of an independent (also currently hotly debated) longer-term question. (I'm fairly certain its going to come for some jobs at least)

And if applied as here, I doubt many would argue that "forcing people to vaccinate" is a weaker measure than "impose some restrictions on unvaccinated" (although the former is of course going to be a strong form of the latter)