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Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by sneak on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:30AM (#29412861)
It is very, VERY difficult to not answer questions from a trained law enforcement interrogator even if you a) are smart and b) know not to answer questions. I can't stress this enough.

It actually takes explicit training and practice, as it goes against every social habit and "instinct" we have developed throughout our entire adult lives.

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by refurb on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:45AM (#29413553)
Reminded me when I watched people try and get out of jury duty by claiming biases.

A big part of the lawyers job is to question people. Their stories fell apart pretty quickly.

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by elcritch on Thursday December 02, 2021 @03:03AM (#29413651)
That’d be interesting to see.

Once I got quizzed when boarding ElAl flights. They have well trained interrogators. It turns out a complicated life story and ADHD method of story telling doesn’t make them happy. A lot of “I said X because the full story is way too complicated, so here’s the full version” ;)

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by refurb on Thursday December 02, 2021 @08:41AM (#29415949)
Very similar approach. Repeated questioning to try and poke holes in your story.

People think they can stand up to it but it’s hard when it’s someone whose full time job is exposing fake stories.

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by CurrentB on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:47AM (#29412955)
Any tips for how one might maintain composure enough to handle these situations if they ever find themselves in them? I imagine the obvious answer is just practice saying "no comment, I need my lawyer present" but I'm not convinced this would make one immune to their Jedi mind tricks when the day comes to exercise it
Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by sneak on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:54AM (#29413592)
You are right: Having watched the "don't talk to the police" video over a half dozen times, I unwillingly volunteered information to a cop when in the moment. It's really hard to put into practice when someone domineering and armed is implicitly threatening you with arrest/violence for not doing precisely what they want you to do.

I actually rehearse now, because police in the USA are so corrupt and unreliable.

Something along the lines of "I know you are just doing your job, but, respectfully, I must consult with my attorney before answering any questions."

Then (to their dismay and annoyance) I repeat the exact same thing over and over again when they inevitably ask me other, follow up questions, trying to work around my initial refusal. (It's so disrespectful, as well as illegal, for them to keep going at that point.)

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by novok on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:02PM (#29426484)
How about the border when entering a country? What should you do in that case?
Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by sneak on Friday December 03, 2021 @12:09PM (#29432335)
Oh, I have a long history of telling the border guards in the USA (where they have to let me in by law) "none of your business" when re-entering.

I have also semi-successfully appealed their FOIA denials covering the incident.

It has resulted in the sexual assault of some of my traveling companions by US CBP (full and thorough body search, simply as punishment for remaining silent). CBP is lousy with criminal pigs.

You can't refuse to answer questions when entering most countries you aren't a citizen of, if you wish to be permitted entry.

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by stjohnswarts on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:47AM (#29415430)
Well since they can lie to you and say anything they like bordering on blackmail, you need to know that. You have to be smart enough to guess what they know and have the fortitude to refuse to answer and ask for a lawyer continuously, sometimes possibly for hours. Always be respectful but resolute on getting that lawyer, no reason to piss them off any more than you are by refusing to answer their question. Police can be quite violent and volatile just like any human perhaps more so since they have almost all the power and guns in a given situation.
Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by influx on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:34AM (#29413491)
I recommend watching this videos on how to talk to police (hint don't):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by xwolfi on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:24AM (#29415234)
I have a silly idea. Say the truth, admit you made a lapse of judgment, offer to repair your victims. Silly I know, but maybe you d be surprised this would go a long way in getting out of this shit situation eventually instead of turning everyone into predatory "we ll crush him for eternity" mode ?
Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by tsimionescu on Thursday December 02, 2021 @08:35AM (#29415883)
It's good that you know it's a silly idea, not sure why you felt the need to share it. Essentially pleading guilty without a lawyer is one of the worse things you could possibly do. It's hard to even know what you are admitting to!
Re:Former Ubiquiti employee charged with stealing data and e... by yardstick on Thursday December 02, 2021 @08:04AM (#29415582)
I think it’s useful to know how to handle yourself when being interrogated and also innocent. I don’t think the op was asking how if they are guilty.