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Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by isoprophlex on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:02PM (#29385250)
Thanks for giving me another invention to be angry about, haha.

Makes you wonder about the opportunities for poisoning of Sidewalk networks, just to get some petty revenge.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by clairity on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:18PM (#29385414)
that's not petty, that's downright patriotic. we have an inalienable right to privacy, security, and liberty, and absolutely no obligation to let companies (or governments) invade or curtail those rights.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by DaiPlusPlus on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:29PM (#29386118)
> we have an inalienable right to privacy, security, and liberty

I assume you’re referring to the US constitution. The rights you’re referring to constrain the government, not companies. You do not have a legal right to privacy w.r.t. your TV spying on you.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by clairity on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:41PM (#29386242)
no, not just the constitution, it's inalienable because it's intrinsic to being civilized people, not because some piece of paper says so. on the contrary, companies have no right to spy on us.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by DaiPlusPlus on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:47PM (#29386307)
Yet they seem to be able to keep on doing it just fine.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by clairity on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:58PM (#29386445)
so people still kicking dogs makes it ok?

note that a right isn't a passive trait, but an active assertion. every time we give in to what's easy, we lose a little bit of our rights. you maintain rights by speaking out and living by them. we wouldn't need a second amendment were that not the case (n.b., i don't personally own nor desire a gun).