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Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by tomxor on Monday November 29, 2021 @10:40AM (#29381059)
This is a misrepresentation, before even getting into lack of modern feature support, webkit introduce a lot of long lived regressions on each release and Apple have changed various behaviours in non-standard ways in Safari over the years then left them broken and unpatched on old devices (looking at you autoheight iframes). This has nothing to do with adopting standards and everything to do with a lack of resources, stagnant release cycle and lack of care and support from Apple.

It's not necessary to talk about chromiums bleeding edge non-standard features, webkit easily has the least support for unopinionated standards released over the last decade and adopted by the other two.

> no platform uses the browser more than iOS users do. iOS users always are over-represented in web usage compared to marketshare.

What point are you trying to make here? iOS users have no choice but to use Safari. If you install firefox or chrome or anything that is a "browser" on an iOS device, it's forced to use Safari webengine underneath, so it's essentially safari with different UI, and this is apparent in the useragent string so any decent stats will show that essentially every iOS user == Safari user.

Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by defaultname on Monday November 29, 2021 @10:49AM (#29381178)
Lack of modern feature support? This is beyond parody.

"What point are you trying to make here? iOS users have no choice but to use Safari."

Android users use the browser on their device -- any browser -- less than iOS users use their browser(s).

Read the Google corporate propaganda repeated on here, and other platforms provide a web bliss of PWAs, freed from app subservience. Only, not at all.

Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by joecool1029 on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:12PM (#29383080)
>Lack of modern feature support?

Can't harass users with notifications.

Safari can open a pdf up like a native webpage in a tab. Until one of the Android browsers can do this out of the box (without having to use a ridiculous fork of Firefox so I can install extensions Mozilla doesn't want me to and installing pdf.js extension to use their own project), it will always be the superior browser.

Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by stjohnswarts on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:45PM (#29388305)
I used to think that I wanted firefox on my iphone (as I use it everywhere else) but I'm happy they are helping to keep google at bay. I have to say a lot of developers don't understand that they aren't the center of the universe and I don't really care if supporting safari based browsers is still a must and makes their lives a bit harder. It's rough for all of us out of here, as an embedded developer I have to work around proprietary crap all the time and yet I've been doing it for almost 2 decades and I'm still okay mentally and physically and they will be too.
Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by tomxor on Monday November 29, 2021 @10:58AM (#29381313)
Please keep the hyperbole to a minimum, without technical argument it just encourages flamewars.
Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by Hidios on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:14AM (#29381526)
How does HN maintain such a great community?
Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by NoGravitas on Monday November 29, 2021 @02:46PM (#29384303)
It doesn't.
Re:Firefox is the alternative to a Chrome hegemony by Hidios on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:12AM (#29381496)
Agreed but as a read-only user of HN, I am compelled to say that your comment borders on Reddit-like low brow posts that fills most of their tech subreddits. I come here to get a break from all that and get an idea of purely the technical aspect of stuff.

I have not seen such a great community on the internet before, so if you have any recommendations of forums like HN, it would be great!