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Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by Arainach on Sunday November 28, 2021 @07:24PM (#29374826)
> Group chats, tight relationships, etc. usually mean someone is free just based on the odds to handle a true emergency.

Congratulations, you've made you entire team on call year round.

I don't read work chats outside of core working hours if I'm not currently on-call. In general, most people shouldn't. Doing so is awful for your stress levels and work-life balance. I did it for more than a decade, burning out twice in the meantime, and things have been much better since I stopped.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by psychstudio on Sunday November 28, 2021 @11:11PM (#29376272)
I don't read group chats _inside_ working hours. I'm working at work, not group chatting.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by thirdsun on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:38AM (#29380327)
If that means you're reading your chats later it sounds as if you're also working outside working hours.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by bbarn on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @01:34PM (#29407357)
You missed the point entirely.

The goal is not to need on call, because you BOTH have a stable system that requires rare off hours interventions, AND you have a team that owns that and is bothered rarely enough to not need to have a formal rotation.

On call systems with stable systems in my experience tend to be a real problem because people lose the on call urgency anyway.

TL;DR - the problem is your system, not being on call or not.